Mapping something (e.g. loop size/out) to jog wheel

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  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79869#Comment_79869

    Try this one please:

    S3Deck.zip

    I added '.rotation' at the appropriate locations.

  • MadLee
    MadLee Member Posts: 13 Member

    no...same problem with the new file...loop keeps getting smaller while touching the knob

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79885#Comment_79885

    Okay, there is a different adapter that i can try which reduces the initial sensitivity of the jogwheel. But answer this: what happens when you turn the jogwheel while touching the knob? Can you get the loopsize to increase? If it does increase when turning, which direction are you turning the wheel, clockwise or counterclockwise? Thanks. Looks like it's time to unpack my S4 and fiddle some more... :)

    @Stevan : The sensitivity problem may hit you as well with the code. Does the same thing happen with the MIDIknobs?

  • MadLee
    MadLee Member Posts: 13 Member

    When I touch the loop knob the loop is getting smaller, when I turn the jogwheel clockwise the loop is getting bigger and when I turn the jogwheel counterclockwise the loop is getting faster smaller

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod
    edited June 2023
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79885#Comment_79885

    Okay, i found the culprit that made the MoveMode and MoveSize not switch. This should work now, since it works with my S4Mk3. With this file, you need to hold down the 'Hotcues'-button instead of touching the knobs. Feels better to my taste. Enjoy.

    S3Deck.zip


    EDIT: if the loop keeps shrinking on pressing the hotcues button without turning the wheel, let me know. It probably means that your jogwheel has some dust in it.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,043 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79878#Comment_79878

    Not a programmer, sorry mate!

    Ideally the jog wheel should output value 63 (turn to the left) and value 65 (turn to the right) from the MIDI Knob Output command. Then it would be possible to assign normally from the Controller Manager as a relative message.

  • MadLee
    MadLee Member Posts: 13 Member

    could you send it over as a zip... im Mac user 😅

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79915#Comment_79915

    Done. My mistake.

    S3Deck.zip

    If the selfmoving thing persists, i already have a working alternative, giving the jogwheel a minimum turn rate before starting to move the LoopOut, but it's a bit less smooth in it's job.


    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79913#Comment_79913

    I'm trying. Too bad the S4Mk3's LEDs are all ON/OFF switches.

  • MadLee
    MadLee Member Posts: 13 Member
    edited June 2023

    loop and everything is working fine again, but I have the same Problem as before

    I don't really know much about midi but could it be, because your s4 has motors to spin the jogwheels?

    EDIT: Its not jumping randomly in the song, just the loop is still getting smaller by just pressing the hatches button

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod

    Allright, try this alternative:

    S3Deck.zip

    The move rate may be slightly different and you have to turn the wheel at a minimum speed. Tell me if the minimum is too small (still moving automatically) or too large (you have to turn too fast). Also check if the move rate is to your liking or if it has to be finer/slower or rougher/faster.

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79913#Comment_79913

    I can assign any value to a specific MIDI knob between 0.0 and 1.0. With the MIDI Out command(s) you can determine which 0-127 value is sent, depending on the knob value.

    It's fairly easy to signal wether or not the wheel is turned; clockwise, counterclockwise or not at all (for example assigning 0, 1 and 0.5 for these cases), or have the 0.0-1.0 value be increased/decreased by any turn rate and by turn direction.

    If you tell me how exactly the knob value (0.0-1.0) is to be varied, i can write the code for the S4Mk3 and upload it. You will only have to put in the MIDI-Out command yourself, for Knobs 1-4 (Decks A-D).

    🦋

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,043 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79933#Comment_79933

    I just need value 63 when turned to the left and value 65 when turned to the right.

    And 0 ans 127 for the Jog touch control.

    No other values are needed.

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,831 mod

    OK. What i will do is this:

    For MIDI Knobs 1-4 (Decks A-D)

    Knob Value 0.0 when turning left (turning 0.0 to Midi 63 you can easily map at your end)

    Knob Value 0.5 when not turning (with a very tiny margin to compensate for seismic disturbances)

    Knob Value 1.0 when turning right (again, you can easily turn this to MIDI Out 65)


    For MIDI Buttons 1-4 (Decks A-D)

    from 0.0 to 1.0 (Touch On)


    Give me a bit for testing.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,043 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/79939#Comment_79939

    That sounds perfect! 0-63 , 64 and 65-127 would.

    I think it is better to use knobs 5-8 and buttons 5-8 as other Djs are more likely to already use first four buttons/knobs for their existing mappings.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,043 mod

    Remember these controls are Global and not per device like modifiers.

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