Maschine plus upgrades (ableton push 3 released)

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  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru

    Glad to read your post as a bridge to common ground. We share some feelings regarding the limitations of the current approach of putting more processing power into these devices and expecting the user experience of the hardware to "keep up" with the creative options and complexities.

    I want to let the software to "run free" and not be held back by the limits of a particular control surface.

    I want control surfaces to be "dumber" and not try to keep up with all aspects of the software.

    Both the desktop experience and the "highly-portable" experience would evolve much faster with this approach.

  • Percivale
    Percivale Member Posts: 230 Pro
    edited June 2023

    Since we have USB ports, do you think we can update Maschine+ and make it work with a mouse and get that GUI for notes editing, grouping of notes and drawing of modulation and velocity curves etc. with the existing hardware?

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 684 Guru
    edited June 2023

    iCult? You are really nice. We could really avoid derogatory remarks about users of other platforms on this forum, perhaps you could contain yourself somehow?

  • djadidai
    djadidai Member Posts: 518 Pro

    Watch out boys, be kind :)

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 684 Guru
    edited June 2023

    And PC fans will always be condescending, sarcastic and rude, as they are now? We might be on a train to the moon, but at least we are not on a hate train… 😉

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,093 Expert

    You are right, but Apple user(s) brought iPad to thread about Maschine+ and Pusch 3....

    And could not stop and stop.

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 684 Guru

    Yes, I agree with you on that. Enough said about iPad, for sure.

    But everything can be said without unnecessary derogatory remarks, that’s my point here.

  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru
    edited June 2023

    Just to emphasize:

    My advocacy for iPad is NOT about Apple or even the iPad.

    It is really about fundamental concepts in how to best achieve friction-free & flexible & symbiotic music production rigs (large and small) that embrace where the future is going.

    Old approaches are not gonna get there.

    My quest has bonafides...

    My first that I built DIY in 1975:


  • myalteredsoul
    myalteredsoul Member Posts: 242 Pro

    around two and a half hours while using ableton. I’ve hit over 3 and a half (I just say over cause there was still battery left when the plane landed), just using it to browse the internet, watch Netflix, and do work.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,093 Expert
    edited June 2023

    It is really about fundamental concepts in how to best achieve friction-free & flexible & symbiotic music production rigs (large and small) that embrace where the future is going.

    Once, when there will be universal standardized thing, that almost everyone worldwide has.... Than yes, it could work fine.

    But, there is not such a product, so ..... no, way. ;-)

  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru

    The market will not wait for a worldwide, universal standardized thing. Some company bring all the smart pieces together and sell lots of stuff to happy, creative people.

    Another key piece of the puzzle to help an iPad behave well when part of a "highly-portable" music performance/creation rigs is Focus... this allows for convenient settings to control a users "isolation" from notification & communication distractions.

    And coming up in this fall for macOS is "Game Mode". A system setting prioritizing performance for graphics and audio latency. This mode likely great for music work too... and bringing it to iPadOS another step in the right direction for optimal use in "highly-portable" music rig.

    Things are lining up nicely to successfully pull off a whole new approach.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,093 Expert

    Yes, new approach is certified thing with ISO defined form format, interface, sockets and so on. So that many manufacturers may produce it and pieces will be interchangable.

    One could snap it in any device designed all over the world. Something like RAM module, HDD, SDD. No licences and so on...

    It may be something based on iPad, but open and with decent OS. Or even better, with OS of choice.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,019 Expert

    How is that rude by pointing out what happens? I’m also a user of both sides of the product fence so far from a “PC Fan”. The moment someone mentions something like this it gets someone’s back hairs standing like they are personally offended because a point about a product they use was said.

    If it helps calm your nerves, the “PC Fans” are focused on comparing the size of their processors more than accepting even a modest processor can handle a job just fine.

  • semitone_autonomy
    semitone_autonomy Member Posts: 7 Member

    So curious... is it a good time to buy Maschine Plus? Theyre pretty cheap used. Had one, loved it, don't know why I traded for MPC Live 2, to me it was the wrong instrument.

    Should I buy a Maschine Plus? Should I wait?

    I'm already waiting for the Push 3 base version.

    Just bought S4 Mk3 from B-stock. Curious to see what comes around in Traktor. I never jelled with Serato, Rekorbox is aight, I use many tools to create playlists though.

    Cheers

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 684 Guru
    edited June 2023

    Yes, you keep repeating that you use both platforms, yet you selectively won’t miss any opportunity for a sarcastic comment about Mac platform and its users which you call “Mac Fans”. Another guy called us “iCult”, I guess that’s OK, too?

    I mean, what happened to kindness and mutual respect? Is it really too much to ask for?

    You are an intelligent and knowledgeable person, a figure of authority on this forum for many, surely you can formulate your negative opinions about Mac/iPad without being sarcastic/rude/condescending ?

    Yes, the thread went off-topic, as it happens quite often and it should have been brought back on topic by MODERATORS.

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