The future of Guitar Rig.....

My perspective on both GR and AT:

I've had both for many years. I've never been able to migrate to just one of them. They each have strengths and weaknesses, although they've both gone backwards in their UI with their latest releases. It seems that developers think phone users have top priority ;)

GR and AT aren't the only ones I use. I also have Presonus Ampire and Waves GTR + PRS. While GR6 gets the most use, they all find their uses from time to time.

I have also been using Guitar Rig since v1. I have used 4 and 5 live for many years now. I am working to use GR6 live but can't understand how to create banks and assign program changes which was super easy in GR5. I spent the past 3 hours on this and finally came upon this thread. Is there a way to create a bank of presets, assign them program change numbers, and then use them live? or do i have to create a label/tag and then increment up and down?

I must reluctantly join the gripes that while GR5 with Rig Kontrol was pretty much everything I wanted from a live rig and everything I wanted from a loop station, GR6 is pretty much nothing I want from either (seeing as Loop Machine shows no signs of returning in GR6). I bought GR6 3 years ago expecting it to eventually surpass the sound quality of GR5 while matching the flexibility of GR5s workflow (for me at least), but the lack of comparable functionality & quirkiness of GR6 (it doesn't even list my RigKontrol 3 midi ports) has left me feeling abandoned, a feeling that is now mutual.

"..and the looper were removed...": I think the Pre and Post Tape Deck features are supposed to take the place of a looper component, but that's just my barely-educated guess.

Anyhow, I just got a Nektar Pacer foot controller (very nearly 100% of what I want in a MIDI foot controller!) and have been finding the task of programming it and Guitar Rig 6 to play nice together for live performance to be more than a little frustrating. Reading this thread alone almost has me convinced to go back to GR5; the ability to map presets to specific MIDI Program Change values seems like a critical feature for live performance, and pairs very nicely with the Pacer's ability to send MIDI messages when switching Pacer presets.

Further frustrating is the apparent lack of any shred of MIDI feedback (output) from GR6. The Pacer in particular can be configured to have its LEDs respond to MIDI messages, but GR6 doesn't let me take advantage of that. In particular, the Metronome doesn't generate MIDI events, so while it's trivial to have a Pacer pedal activate the Tap Tempo function, I can't make the Pacer flash an LED in time with the Metronome.

It's disheartening to see such little engagement from NI on this thread. I really want to like NI, but so much of their stuff is just...not quite there. I bought an S88 a few years back, and...well, that's another story for another day.