Maschine 2.16 Silicon native no AU?

franklyn
franklyn Member Posts: 26 Member
edited October 2024 in Maschine

Can anyone confirm if or if the native version has no AU Plug Ins support? I ask, because all I saw in description and videos was talking about VST and VST3 but Maschine has also AU plug ins in the past. I want to verify before I update.

Next question if there is AU, does the native version load AU rosetta/native plug ins (like Ableton / logic) ?


thanx for clearing

Frank

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,139 mod
    edited November 2022 Answer ✓

    It does support native AU - I’ll have to check if it supports AU bridging, it’s possible it could since that is handled by the MacOs AUHostingCompatibilityService not the host per se

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,139 mod
    edited November 2022 Answer ✓

    It does support native AU - I’ll have to check if it supports AU bridging, it’s possible it could since that is handled by the MacOs AUHostingCompatibilityService not the host per se

  • franklyn
    franklyn Member Posts: 26 Member

    thanx. that's good news ! I ask myself why everybody only talks about VST3 if AU is much more cross compatible between Intel Rosetta and native. cool !

  • nanotable
    nanotable Member Posts: 98 Advisor

    So I checked, and bridging with AUHostingCompatibilityService is at least partially supported. But not all plugins show up, most notably all of NI's AUs are missing.

    Some plugins work (PSP MixPack, IKM Comprexxor), some don't (Output Portal, AD Replicant 2). It's going to be trial and error, I guess.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,139 mod
    edited November 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/38551#Comment_38551

    Partly I think because Komplete Kontrol doesn’t support AU and while plug-in fx are useful in Maschine it is not well suited for plugin instruments in my experience so keyboard users tend more to use KK

    Also VST3 is now the only cross platform plugin format in widespread use

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,139 mod
    edited November 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/38556#Comment_38556

    Trying it myself now and they all show - you just need to tick the box in Prefs/Plugins to enable NI Audio Units (it's off by default)

    Of course this is a wrapper so in practice possibly performance for Massive X is no better than using Rosetta - however it does mean it can be used alongside native plugins and Maschine itself is native. Just a pity I can't do this in Komplete Kontrol though as Massive X is useless to me in Maschine as it doesn't support aftertouch

  • franklyn
    franklyn Member Posts: 26 Member

    thanx for testing and Clearing. that helps.

    IMO at the Moment AU plug ins are the best choice to stay compatible (on Mac)

  • nanotable
    nanotable Member Posts: 98 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/38679#Comment_38679

    Oh you’re right, sorry for that. What a weird setting to have 😅

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