Play Series available on Mpc but not Maschine+

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  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,710 mod

    That's a different topic though, really.

    By all means, it's valid to compare and contrast the features of various products - such as the Sampler between MPC and Maschine.

    But if the original complaint here was that NI are making sounds available on platforms other than Maschine, and therefore leaving y'all behind, I just wanted to remind people that we recently released a much larger flagship group of sounds for Maschine.

    The sounds are the sounds - they'll sound great on MPC and they'll sound great on Maschine. If you'd rather use one Sampler over another Sampler for a specific feature beyond the sounds loads, that's absolutely fair.

  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,710 mod

    Kontakt and some of our other VST plug-ins are too resource intensive for Maschine+ to run in standalone mode.

    Kontakt is also too resource intensive to run on MPC in standalone mode.

    That's why the work here is twofold: we've ported some signature sounds to MPC by rebuilding them in their native sampler (the announcement at NAMM). We've also ported over 100 flagship instruments to Maschine by rebuilding them in Maschine's Sampler (the announcement in Q4 2024). And we'll continue our efforts to make a wide variety of sounds available in a wider variety of places.

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,361 Expert

    I think the problem is that those "144 new instruments" were not really promoted as such, like they have been for the Akai announcement. They've been secreted away as part of a library bundle, so probably many people don't even know they exist.

    On the Maschine Central product page, it mentions 144 new instruments, but doesn't really go into much detail about what they are or where they came from. Only four instruments (sources) are actually named - Noire, Straylight, Session Strings and Choir: Omnia. The rest are a mystery.

    They're described as instruments, yet I don't see them if I select 'instruments' on my Maschine+ screen. I have to go to 'sounds' then select MAS Central to see 144 results. Some have the name of the source, like 5 that say Lores, but others are just single names.

    If I could go to the Instruments page, see the Lores (or Noire etc) graphic shown on the left, then see all the presets, that would have been more like it. That's how it's been done on the MPCs.

  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,710 mod

    That's a fair point. Perception is reality after all. They look different - but it's the sounds that ideally should matter.

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,361 Expert
  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,710 mod

    I agree that the Samplers are different. I think there may be some Sampler improvements on the horizon for Maschine but I'll let @Chris_NI and @Martin_NI handle that.

  • OhulahanBass
    OhulahanBass Member Posts: 211 Pro

    the Monark and frankly all of the filters in Massive X are top notch. Adding those and some basic plumbing (like globally turning off loops in an auto sample) to the sampler would be AMAZING…for me at least.

  • OhulahanBass
    OhulahanBass Member Posts: 211 Pro
    edited January 23

    It’s possible opening up NKS and NI instruments to more platforms would lead to more money/resources to dev crews at NI. Could be a good thing. Hopefully NI has some Maschine announcements this week at Namm.

  • Prokat99
    Prokat99 Member Posts: 40 Member
    edited January 23

    As a NI Ultimate owner and AKAI MPC user, I'm really surprised how NI is rolling this out.

    I own all of these products through Ultimate but I would need to pay for them again (despite some of them free) to use limited versions on the MPC….?

    Combining this with the shun towards current Maschine users… it's really just confusing at best.

    Had they released one of their software instruments like Massive, I could see the point. But this is just odd and seemingly disrespectful to their base…

    Edit: I missed some of the responses above regarding resources on the standalone stuff. I guess maybe that's why the "good stuff" won't get ported. That makes a bit of sense.

  • dogbreath11
    dogbreath11 Member Posts: 112 Member

    if kontakt is too cpu intensive for maschine+ how about include the reaktor ensembles instead? kontour, trk, form, super 8 etc. prism and monark run fine.

    or at least the fx suite, vc76, supercharger, driver , dirt etc

    also, i have vintage organs and retro machine on my maschin+ and they run fine

  • dogbreath11
    dogbreath11 Member Posts: 112 Member
    edited January 23

    its also possible that those new resources will spend their time working on akai products lol

  • HugoClubs
    HugoClubs Member Posts: 99 Advisor

    Appreciate the communication Matthew, but please don’t set expectations too high 😅

  • walerandei
    walerandei Member Posts: 37 Helper
    edited January 23

    The only way NI can make a proper and great stand-alone groovebox … is to put NI's plugins inside Akai's MPC. 😀

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