Denon Prime 4 Level Meter Midi Mapping Question

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viper9711
viper9711 Member Posts: 249 Pro
in Mapping Traktor

Hello,
does anyone know how to map the deck level meter pre-fader on the Denon Prime 4?
I need the Midi CC channel+value for the out command.
How can I find that out without trying 16 channels and 127 Midi CCs?

Thanks for help

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  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,327 mod

    Contact Denon support. Otherwise look up for the midi implementation sheets online.

    Note. I just enable learn and push buttons on my Maschine JAM untill the VU lights up.

  • viper9711
    viper9711 Member Posts: 249 Pro

    There are no midi sheets to find, no response from Denon support for Midi sheets.

    The problem is it's only an Midi out command-try and error takes a lot oft time…

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,327 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/193188#Comment_193188

    Reminds me to never by anything from Denon.

    Assignning each channel+CC number manually can take ages. This is why I mentioned my Maschine jam. I simply have all CC or Note numbers already programmed by default - All I need to do is assign Input to Maschine and the OPutput to what ever controller I need to figure out LED's (justy did this the other day for my Mixtour Pro to figure the VU meter).

  • viper9711
    viper9711 Member Posts: 249 Pro

    Well, it's not my top priority.
    I mainly use the standalone mode - that's what the Prime4 is designed for

  • djash-eventservice
    djash-eventservice Member Posts: 1 Member

    Ch.01.CC.010 is Chanel 1 for VU

  • viper9711
    viper9711 Member Posts: 249 Pro

    Thanks for help

  • nachopenades
    nachopenades Member Posts: 311 Pro
    image.png

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • VityaT
    VityaT Member Posts: 55 Helper

    Looks like Denon SC Live 4 uses the same midi messages. But if use only one setting for each channel VU meters (with 0 to 1 controller range and 0 to 127 midi range) there will be kind of weird show. @nachopenades know about it for sure
    I've found a solution for this
    For Denon SC Live 4 and Traktor Deck A it will be:

    Make 6 copies of Add Out - Deck Pre-Fader Level (L+R). They are for each VU Level according to LED count (for Prime 4 it needed more copies). Map each to Ch.01.CC.010. Set controller range and midi range for each next copy as following:
    Controller Range 0.007 - 1

    Midi Range 0 - 1

    Controller Range 0.05 - 1

    Midi Range 1 - 3

    Controller Range 0.2 - 1

    Midi Range 3 - 7

    Controller Range 0.5 - 1

    Midi Range 7 - 15

    Controller Range 0.7 - 1

    Midi Range 15 - 31

    Controller Range 0.97 - 1

    Midi Range 31 - 63

    It is my settings. You can set controller range as you wish if you don't like mine.

    For Prime 4 it needed to set more midi and controller ranges but i can't define them now as i don't own Prime 4.

    Some pictures and video are below

    sclive1.jpg
    sclive2.jpg

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    https://youtu.be/TSqp9j0QR-A
  • nachopenades
    nachopenades Member Posts: 311 Pro

    Good job @VityaT! It seems to lack a bit of dynamics but it's better than the other configuration. Thanks for sharing, I will try it when I can.

  • VityaT
    VityaT Member Posts: 55 Helper

    @nachopenades
    You are right. The dynamics is not great. But it is strongly depends on the number of LEDs.

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