Midi CC numbers: How to find out? #templates

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McClaneonfire
McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member
edited October 2024 in Komplete Kontrol

Hello everyone,

I'm trying out the new Template function on the MK3 S61 and wonder:

how can I find out say the CC numbers in different vst instruments for example for a button to turn on the Reverb or anything? Some manuals provide the CC numbers but many don't.

Any hints and infos on that? Thank you😇

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,862 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/35055/midi-cc-numbers-how-to-find-out-templates

    Most plugins don't have fixed MIDI CC's but just use MIDI learn to assign them, some allow you to save these mappings (eg Arturia plugins) but not all

  • McClaneonfire
    McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member

    Thank you for the fast answer!

    So, some toggles don't have Midi learn, can I find out by trial and error, what CC they correspond to? Or are toggles / knobs without Midi learn funtion not controlable that way?

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,862 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/173169#Comment_173169

    Depends on the plugin - give me an example

    Very few plugins have automation targets for every single param. Remember MIDI only goes up to 128 so they prioritise

  • McClaneonfire
    McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member

    Let's say I want to press the "dice" button in some of the NI-instruments → like Analog Dreams 2.

  • crisNI
    crisNI Member Posts: 32 Member

    for Maschine/Reaktor you can use the "Edit" view to see/change the CC numbers itself.
    1 - click Edit
    2 - choose any destination (like "Arp Mode Up/UpDown/Down" as pictured)
    3 - click the ☑️-symbol and "Connect"
    4 - here you can find/change the CCs

    cc.png
  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,862 mod
    edited August 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/173176#Comment_173176

    OK so in Kontakt you can assign MIDI in 2 ways (if it is not already setup) - either by right clicking on a knob/button and selecting MIDI learn, then moving your knob on the keyboard, or by dragging one of the CC's in the left column over to the param you want to assign it to. If it is available for automation the cursor will change to a green + sign, unfortunately for the dice it doesn't which means it's not available so I guess it's 'no dice' :)

    Screenshot 2024-08-19 at 10.24.44.png
  • McClaneonfire
    McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member

    Thank you!

  • McClaneonfire
    McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member

    Wuhuuu thank all of you!

    Yes I also just found the Midi Automation Tab in Kontakt!

    AND I CAN assign the Dice - and also other buttons like on/off for FX!

    This is really cool!

    PS: I don't know why but your dragging way does not show the green + sign BUT the following works:

    1. Set your button or know to send teh CC number you want
    2. click the same CC number slot in Kontakt (see image above from @Kymeia)
    3. click "Assigned to: Learn" under the CC List
    4. move the button / knob on your keyboard
    5. click the button / knob in Kontakt to be controlled

    It works with any button / knob I tried. So even the ones that don't show "Midi learn" or the green + sign while hovering / dragging things with the mouse.

  • McClaneonfire
    McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member
    Midi CC - every knob.jpg

    Dubdidu 🤩🐳🌴

  • McClaneonfire
    McClaneonfire Member Posts: 163 Member

    If you want to save this connection or if you have set up a whole bunch of knobs etc.

    → save it as an instrument "File/Save as"

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,862 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/173188#Comment_173188

    That's interesting, I couldn't assign that one even using learn but evidently should have persisted

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