When will Reaktor7 come?

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  • colB
    colB Member Posts: 958 Guru

    back when it was called Generator, before the sampling features were added and the name changed to Reaktor, it wasn't just a flagship product, it was their first and only product! ;)

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 634 Advisor

    I don't get this upgrade worry. It's not like it's going to stop working but the user library could disappear if they go out of business.

  • KoaN
    KoaN Member Posts: 130 Advisor

    Ohh i only jumped on board at Reaktor 3…"only" yah i when i was actually young in my twenties hehe.

  • Simon A. Billington
    Simon A. Billington Member Posts: 114 Helper
  • Simon A. Billington
    Simon A. Billington Member Posts: 114 Helper

    Yeah and no. If they had positive plans for it I would be all good to still use it.

    Since it's future in a questionable state, then that raises the risk flag. Risky products in general don't fit in with the workflow.

  • Simon A. Billington
    Simon A. Billington Member Posts: 114 Helper

    VCV or even just a regular software synth, depending how you use it. There are so many great things out there that are doing what you can't do in Reaktor unless maybe you build it from scratch.

    That is the thing, I got Reaktor years back hoping to find time into digging into building things from the ground up, use it to realise a few ideas I had in my head. As it is, I never did end up finding the time for it and have just started using it for its modular synth approach.

    If you're building from the ground up it doesn't have much competition at all. If you're using it as a (modular) synth, then there are plenty of competitors.

  • Simon A. Billington
    Simon A. Billington Member Posts: 114 Helper

    Remember, NI is under new management. They also own iZotope and Plugin Alliance now.

    Like many mergers they would have gone through the personal cut by now, they would have had a long, hard assessment of all the projects, they've already given a couple the axe and put a couple in the "uncertain future" category, Reaktor being one.

    Its only a matter of time before they circle around to the uncertain projects and based on how successful everything has been up until then they will either give it the go ahead or deem it End Of Life.

    It's true that their Traktor stuff relies alot on Reaktor tech, but that's the thing. 10 years on and not alot of that has changed. Traktor has better functionality a few more features, but it still relies on the old synths, such as Massive for example. Sooner or later, people are going to want something more modern and progressive and that will play a major part as a the catalyst on the future of Reaktor and Reaktor based products.

    In the immediate future it will be stable, since they just released new version of Traktor. In a few years time this will all be called into question by the powers that be who will want to minimise overheads and maximise profits.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,055 Expert
    edited August 16

    How Traktor relates to Reaktor or Massive? Traktor is DJ SW….

    Maybe that some parts of Traktor functionality might have been sketched in Reaktor. But Reaktor creates C (or maybe C++) source code internally. So, even if Reaktor has been used to develop part of Traktor functionalities, NI could just use generated source code and forget about Reaktor.

  • colB
    colB Member Posts: 958 Guru

    VCV or even just a regular software synth, depending how you use it. There are so many great things out there that are doing what you can't do in Reaktor unless maybe you build it from scratch.

    It's not an A|B choice between scratch build, or pure user though…

    The best thing in Reaktor is that you can use a bunch of Factory or User Library content, and modify it to your needs, or add a little extra missing feature as a separate instrument.

    You can choose your level on a continuum between just using content, modding, intermediate scratch build, right through to build everything yourself at a DSP level without even using factory components. Can't do that with VCV, or a regular synth…

    …and besides, there are so many great things in Reaktor that you can't do with other things out there…

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,055 Expert
    edited August 16

    And one may just use, what other users have created. Sellection is so wide…. That is real strenght of Reaktor. Contribution of users. That is higher hundreds of thousands hours of development stored in ensembles that are freely accesible to other users.

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 634 Advisor

    I couldn't tell you how many times I've made a recording and went into the user's library looking for something suitable. Most definitely a perk.

  • Studiowaves
    Studiowaves Member Posts: 634 Advisor

    I've seen a million old vst's and vsti's still for sale after their discontinued. Some are sold by a different vendor that purchased or took over another vendor but some are still offered by the same vendor and they're over 20 years old.

  • gentleclockdivider
    gentleclockdivider Member Posts: 191 Helper
    edited August 17

    Wrong , there was a huge rewrite in 2010 for reaktor 5.5 + advanced modules like sinebank and modal bank
    That beng said , plugdata is absolutely awesome .
    I use it on a daily basis and for midi sequencing alone it's vastly superior to reaktor , and let's not even begin with the amazing gui not dependent on bloody bitmaps .
    Here's some stuff I made in pure data .

  • Paul B
    Paul B Member Posts: 163 Advisor

    I wonder if the original poster regrets asking 🤣.

    We've all got to ignore the "my particular situation prevents me confidently using Reaktor therefore everyone who acts differently is a fool" comments. Make up your own minds.

  • KoaN
    KoaN Member Posts: 130 Advisor
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