How is Traktor roadmap looking?

As a software developer by myself I cant understand how they take 2-3 years for that. All the libraries (demucs, spleeter…) for that are open source. I've coded already 3 spleeter based revisions by my own and they are even public libraries which do the complete process all in one too like stemgen from axeldelafosse. (Great library btw)

Yes, MIT is for commercial use.

Spleeter is being used by VirtualDJ, DJay Pro or VST software as RX8 and demucs is being used by Serato (AFAIK).

https://www.deezer-techservices.com/solutions/spleeter/

https://github.com/adefossez/demucs

https://stemgen.dev/

Also RX8 by iZotope (owned by NI) already made an Integration.

On developer site I can understand that its frustrating to deal with python embedding and hardware acceleration within old C++ code but its doable.

Fun fact: demucs was trained with MUSDB18 dataset which are in Native Instruments Stem format.

#edit: The only explaination to take that long could be developing new hardware featuring that. Since the release of the X1 MK3 im kinda hopeful. (Simon ignored every Z2 comment in June 2024 update and said the X1 is only a start - which could be a good sign)

I think that NI dev team or communication/ community managers should talk more about how the project is going. NI isn't recruiting dev at this time so the team should not be overworked OR they are and the board doesn't understand how much we DJs are craving for these updates to stay up to date in this highly competitive environment.

I fear that NI's lack of transparency has only one goal. To keep us buying while we wait for a product that will come way to late or will not be good enough to use.

So to keep customers trust, I hope they will soon keep us up to date and more frequently.

Lots of my friends are getting impatient and switching to pioneer cause they don't find interest anymore in using traktor :

1. No live stem separation
2. No flexible beat grid
3. Pioneer is the most while spread product in clubs so they don't have to bring their controllers. However metadata file format between traktor and pioneer is DIFFERENT so they can't prepare their songs on traktor and use them on pioneer without using 3rd party software

I guess NI should read this seriously as it looks like they are facing a major community problem with their lack of updates.

Shout-out to the dev that surely are being pressured a lot in this situation.

Well especially according to stems this is still a very weak performance: NI started stems back in the days as format. Unfortunately no one has embraced the format. Would love to get professional mixed stems at Beatport as they would feature pristine quality. To be honest every stem separation I heard till today just sucks. Quality is at best somehow acceptable but usually you get to many artifacts. But even with this NI should had integrated in app separation much earlier. Especially as they have the know how inhouse since the acquisition of iZotope.

Was at a store looking for gear this week. Talked to the guy there and he told that he already saw the separation feature and we have to wait around two weeks. Giving not much on this information as I of course don't know where he got this information from.

Agree with that. Code refactoring in times of ChatGPT isnt that hard anymore. Took way too long for that. Im guessing that they have a bit more in pipeline. (I hope so)

Pioneer is shocking at the min, Rekordbox 7 is utter shite, also if you bought one of the 7 x controllers they are no longer supporting because of it, you would be hopping mad, Engine DJ is nailing it at the min, and is under cutting Pioneer with better software and more features, don't write of Traktor just yet, trust me, these guys know what they are doing. Hang in there :-)