Controller Manager and Midi Mapping

DigitalJunkie
DigitalJunkie Member Posts: 5 Member
edited October 22 in Mapping Traktor

Hey guys. I've been trying to figure this out for awhile now but I cant. So I mapped CuePause and Sync(Hold) to the cue button so that anytime I load a track all I have to do is push cue to sync the bpm to the playing track while still allowing me to beatmatch manually. It worked just great for 2 decks. Now that I've started to use 3 decks though I've run into an issue. I cant figure out how to map the cue button for deck C so that it doesn't pause deck A while deck A and B are playing together. I'm assuming there is a way to do it with modifiers but I just can't grasp how to work with them. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Worse comes to worse I'll just map a different button for deck C and D

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  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 1,960 mod
    Answer ✓

    You will need two modifiers. One for each side of the controller.

    Modifier 1 = 0 mapped to Deck A selector.

    Modifier 1 = 1 mapped to Deck C selector.

    Then create the sync command entries for Sync A and Sync C and map both to your CUE button.

    Finally use modifier conditions to determine which deck will be synced. For Deck A Sync assign M1=0 and for Deck C Sync assign M1=1

    Do the same on the other side of the controller with a new modifier.

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  • Noisey
    Noisey Member Posts: 12 Member

    First of all would be helpful to know what controller are You using and is the CUE button shared with Decks A/B/C/D??

  • DigitalJunkie
    DigitalJunkie Member Posts: 5 Member

    I guess I should have stated what controller I'm using. Sorry. I'm using the S4 MK3 with default mapping. Not sure what you mean by shared with Decks A/B/C/D. I've assigned the left cue button to Cue and Sync(Hold) for deck A and C and the right cue to Cue and Sync(Hold) for deck B and D.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,839 mod
    https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9277

    Maybe this is a ready 4 deck mapping you could like. But modifiers are really straight forward, you have a button or more to set the state of the modifiers, then you can set this modifiers + required state as a dependency for a button to work, so on your case, let's say you have a modifier that can be 0 and 1, so first cue works if it is 0 the second cue works if it is 1. This describes a simple shift function, but it can be more complex if needed.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 1,960 mod
    Answer ✓

    You will need two modifiers. One for each side of the controller.

    Modifier 1 = 0 mapped to Deck A selector.

    Modifier 1 = 1 mapped to Deck C selector.

    Then create the sync command entries for Sync A and Sync C and map both to your CUE button.

    Finally use modifier conditions to determine which deck will be synced. For Deck A Sync assign M1=0 and for Deck C Sync assign M1=1

    Do the same on the other side of the controller with a new modifier.

  • DigitalJunkie
    DigitalJunkie Member Posts: 5 Member

    Thank you guys. I appreciate all the responses.

  • gpratola
    gpratola Member Posts: 14 Member

    Sorry, I have a question, I recently bought an S4 MK3, I don't understand if it is possible to map MIDI? from what I understand, no! Stevan correct me, give me an answer...

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 1,960 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/154548#Comment_154548

    There is no MIDI mode sadly. Only way to use S4 Mk3 with a different app is to output midi from Traktor first.

    Traktor → Virtual cable → 3r party app

    Use global midi controls (Faders/Knobs/Buttons) - there are 8 of each - to get midi signal out of Traktor.

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,839 mod

    But for traktory can't you remap some buttons?

  • gpratola
    gpratola Member Posts: 14 Member
    edited May 17

    Thanks Stevan, we spoke.. in the past I have several midi fighter controllers.... I only use Traktor, not other programs, from what I understand there is no way to "switch" in midi mode with the S4 as happens with the F1 or X1 , but it is possible to map midi using the NI controller editor.... (the only problem is that by mapping in this way every time I connect the S4 mk3 I will have to delete the native HID from controller list?)

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 1,960 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/154567#Comment_154567

    Controller Editor won't see the S4 Mk3 since it is not a midi controller at all. (no MIDI Mode)

    Controller Manager/HID or QML codeing is the only way.

  • gpratola
    gpratola Member Posts: 14 Member

    THX Stevan
    to understand.... how was this mapping with the .tsi file done if MIDI doesn't work?

    https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9325

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 1,960 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/154660#Comment_154660

    I am author of that mapping actually - it is done with Traktor's defaul TSI overmapping capabilities (not a MIDI mode).

    You don't beleive me when I say there is no MIDI mode inside the S4 MK3 :) ???

  • gpratola
    gpratola Member Posts: 14 Member
    edited May 18

    I believe you, of course I found these maps on the net, with the TSI and I didn't understand how they could be there considering that the S4 mk3 controller cannot be mappable... Thanks again Stevan

    Now I understand what we mean by overmapping

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,839 mod

    Here is one example of overlapping:

    https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/de/articles/15880527833245-Traktor-X1-MK3-Overmapping-Instructions

  • gpratola
    gpratola Member Posts: 14 Member

    Help Stevan

    Schermata 2024-06-13 alle 21.46.37.png

    I have already performed the map overload of all knobs, effects etc... and everything is ready
    BUT I can't find a way to swap the channels audio routing ,

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