Why does Maschine 2 app show fuzzy, low resolution graphics and fonts?

BJ_Dobbs
BJ_Dobbs Member Posts: 10 Newcomer
edited October 22 in Maschine

Why does Maschine 2 app show fuzzy, low resolution graphics and fonts on my 4k monitor? All my other software displays nice and sharp. M2 looks like a leftover from Windows XP.

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  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,262 mod
    Answer ✓

    ☝️ Indeed.

    The bigger the monitor the more noticeable it will be due to pixel density, the only way for clear GUI is native resolution (100% - no scaling) which will make everything super tiny on a hi-res screen, which then makes you sit closer or squint which is not great for your eye health..

    Pick whatever scaling is more practical for you, imo 100% makes Windows unusable, so 125% or 150%

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  • BJ_Dobbs
    BJ_Dobbs Member Posts: 10 Newcomer

    I've tried DPI settings changes. Nothing works. Is there an update for this problem? Tnx.

  • reffahcs
    reffahcs Member Posts: 848 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/137572#Comment_137572

    You need to change your scaling, not the DPI settings. Try something like 150% to start with, you may need more on a 4K monitor.

    Right click on the desktop -> Show More Options -> Display Settings -> Scale

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  • BJ_Dobbs
    BJ_Dobbs Member Posts: 10 Newcomer

    Hey reffahcs,

    M2 Fuzzy 150res 2024-03-03 001556.png

    thanks for the info. I'm using a 32" 4k. Windows suggests 150% scaling which I've been using for a long time. I just tried 100%. Indeed M2 resolution improved greatly but it became really tiny as did everything else on the desktop. I've never had an app that suffered res issues from 150% until M2.

    Nonetheless, I have something new to explore. I'll test settings e.g folder sizes and fonts at 100% and see. Top image 150%, bottom 100%.

    Scaling pic 2024-03-03 000756.png
    M2 100res 2024-03-03 001752.png


  • reffahcs
    reffahcs Member Posts: 848 Guru

    That's quite a difference. I don't think there's much Windows can do to make programs sharper, seems like 125% might be the sweet spot between being large enough to see, but not too fuzzy.

  • BJ_Dobbs
    BJ_Dobbs Member Posts: 10 Newcomer

    I could get used to 100%. I'd just need to sit a lot closer to the screen. 😉

  • reffahcs
    reffahcs Member Posts: 848 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/137588#Comment_137588

    That's the main reason I went for 32" 2K monitors. I'm too old for 4K 😅

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 666 Guru

    Maschine is not HiDPI compatible. It doesn’t look good at any resolution higher than 1440p, looks best at 1080p, unfortunately.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,262 mod
    Answer ✓

    ☝️ Indeed.

    The bigger the monitor the more noticeable it will be due to pixel density, the only way for clear GUI is native resolution (100% - no scaling) which will make everything super tiny on a hi-res screen, which then makes you sit closer or squint which is not great for your eye health..

    Pick whatever scaling is more practical for you, imo 100% makes Windows unusable, so 125% or 150%

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,633 Expert
    edited March 3

    I'm using 100% on Windows here, and it's perfectly usable (I'm no spring chicken either).

    32" 1080p

    With 4K on the same size screen though, things will be 4x smaller.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,262 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/137718#Comment_137718

    Well of course it's usable, the lack of Hi DPI does not affect 1080p screens because well… 1080 is the resolution Maschine was designed for, it's not a high-density pixel count so there's no need for any scaling.

    The lack of High DPI that makes things fuzzy/blurry only affects 4k / Retina or similar/higher pixel densities.

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,633 Expert
    edited April 1

    Well of course it's usable

    I was responding to your comment of "100% makes Windows unusable".

    A month later you've changed your mind? 😁

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,262 mod
    edited April 1
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/144347#Comment_144347

    No, I didn't.

    "unusable" on hi-res screens like the one OP has (4k), you dont have a hi-res screen, thus no problem. Well…. Maybe it was hi-res back in 2002 but certainly not in this era.

    With 4K/Retina and 100% scaling (windows or mac) everything is tiny, the only way things that were designed to be 4x bigger can be "usable" when 4x smaller is if you have a gigantic screen really close to you or use a magnifying glass to make music. Not sure who would stand 3 feet away from a 70" screen tho…

    Screenshot 2024-04-01 at 20.13.54.png

    Hum…. Now that you mention the date I'm confused, your post is indeed old but I just got a notification, maybe a forum bug or some comments got deleted for some reason.

    Screenshot 2024-04-01 at 20.11.48.png

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,633 Expert

    on hi-res screens

    ….which was not written in the original post. The H in HD stands for High, so my screen is certainly not low resolution. Nor is it out of date. There are still plenty of HD screens being sold today. 😛

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