Title: Maschine 3.4–3.6 regression: legacy presets (.nksn/.nabs/.nifx) fail to load — "getUniquePluginID failed" — ALL Kontakt libraries affected Since updating past 3.3.1 on macOS (Apple Silicon), no Kontakt library preset loads from the Maschine browser. Clicking any kit gives: " could not be loaded, as it may not yet support Apple Silicon or VST2 to VST3 migration." Confirmed on a clean Maschine 3.6.0 install from Native Access. 3.3.1 loads the same content on the same machine without any problem, so this is a regression introduced in 3.4. This affects ALL Kontakt libraries — old and new alike. A 2024 library (24K Drums, minVersion 7.0.0.0) fails exactly like a 2014 one (Abbey Road 80s Drummer). Kontakt 7 and 8 are both installed as AU and VST3 and load fine as plugins; the libraries load fine inside Kontakt itself. Komplete Kontrol loads the very same presets without any problem on the same machine. WHAT THE LOG SHOWS ~/Library/Logs/Native Instruments/Maschine 3.log: getUniquePluginID failed Load sound(s) FAILED (24K Drums could not be loaded, ...) THE ACTUAL PATTERN It is not about Kontakt, and not about library age. It is about the preset file format: Modern NKS (.nksf/.nksfx) — contains a PLID chunk -> LOADS Legacy NI formats (.nksn, .nabs, .nifx) — no PLID -> FAILS * Massive X (.nksf) works. Bite (.nksfx) works — and Bite has no product registration at all, so registration is clearly not the deciding factor. * RC 24 (.nifx) fails even though it has a complete, correct registration. * Absynth 6 is the clearest case: its modern .nksf presets load, while the legacy "Absynth 5" .nabs bank fails — same plugin, two formats, opposite results. Presets with a PLID are resolved directly from the file. Presets without one fall back to deriving the plugin from the product registry, and that fallback is what fails. REPRODUCIBLE TEST Take a working preset (Massive X .nksf) and change only the 4-byte plugin magic in its PLID chunk from Ni$H (Massive X) to NiK8 (Kontakt 8). Nothing else. Maschine then loads Kontakt from that preset without error. So Kontakt can be instantiated from the browser perfectly well — only the no-PLID resolution path is broken. ALREADY RULED OUT (all tested, no effect) * Deleting Plugin.data / Plugin_arm64.data and doing full rescans * Adding AU / VST / VST3 folders to Preferences > Plug-ins > Locations * Repairing/updating Kontakt via Native Access * Disabling Kontakt 7, and disabling AU entirely (VST3-only, matching Komplete Kontrol) * Preferences > Plug-ins > "Always Use Latest Version of NI Plugins" off * Rosetta mode * Disconnecting the Maschine+ hardware * Rebuilding the plugin database and library rescans * Clean 3.6.0 install from Native Access This strands every Kontakt library snapshot in the Maschine browser — in my case around 170 libraries. Is a fix planned for the legacy no-PLID path, or are these formats now unsupported? macOS , Apple Silicon , Maschine 3.6.0, Kontakt 7 + 8 (AU+VST3).

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/267179#Comment_267179 Now I understand. I'm very interested.

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/267152#Comment_267152 I meant I could send it to you by dm in the forum, are you interested?

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/267075#Comment_267075 I openened a Ticket. Thanks You

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Kontakt libraries won't load from browser in 3.6.0 — regression since 3.3.1

jorgefriasny

Title: Maschine 3.4–3.6 regression: legacy presets (.nksn/.nabs/.nifx) fail to load —
"getUniquePluginID failed" — ALL Kontakt libraries affected

Since updating past 3.3.1 on macOS (Apple Silicon), no Kontakt library preset loads from
the Maschine browser. Clicking any kit gives:

"<Product> could not be loaded, as it may not yet support Apple Silicon or
VST2 to VST3 migration."

Confirmed on a clean Maschine 3.6.0 install from Native Access. 3.3.1 loads the same
content on the same machine without any problem, so this is a regression introduced
in 3.4.

This affects ALL Kontakt libraries — old and new alike. A 2024 library (24K Drums,
minVersion 7.0.0.0) fails exactly like a 2014 one (Abbey Road 80s Drummer). Kontakt 7
and 8 are both installed as AU and VST3 and load fine as plugins; the libraries load
fine inside Kontakt itself. Komplete Kontrol loads the very same presets without
any problem on the same machine.

WHAT THE LOG SHOWS
~/Library/Logs/Native Instruments/Maschine 3.log:

getUniquePluginID failed
Load sound(s) FAILED (24K Drums could not be loaded, ...)

THE ACTUAL PATTERN
It is not about Kontakt, and not about library age. It is about the preset file format:

Modern NKS (.nksf/.nksfx) — contains a PLID chunk -> LOADS
Legacy NI formats (.nksn, .nabs, .nifx) — no PLID -> FAILS

Massive X (.nksf) works. Bite (.nksfx) works — and Bite has no product registration
at all, so registration is clearly not the deciding factor.
RC 24 (.nifx) fails even though it has a complete, correct registration.
Absynth 6 is the clearest case: its modern .nksf presets load, while the legacy
"Absynth 5" .nabs bank fails — same plugin, two formats, opposite results.

Presets with a PLID are resolved directly from the file. Presets without one fall back
to deriving the plugin from the product registry, and that fallback is what fails.

REPRODUCIBLE TEST
Take a working preset (Massive X .nksf) and change only the 4-byte plugin magic in its
PLID chunk from Ni$H (Massive X) to NiK8 (Kontakt 8). Nothing else. Maschine then loads
Kontakt from that preset without error. So Kontakt can be instantiated from the browser
perfectly well — only the no-PLID resolution path is broken.

ALREADY RULED OUT (all tested, no effect)

Deleting Plugin.data / Plugin_arm64.data and doing full rescans
Adding AU / VST / VST3 folders to Preferences > Plug-ins > Locations
Repairing/updating Kontakt via Native Access
Disabling Kontakt 7, and disabling AU entirely (VST3-only, matching Komplete Kontrol)
Preferences > Plug-ins > "Always Use Latest Version of NI Plugins" off
Rosetta mode
Disconnecting the Maschine+ hardware
Rebuilding the plugin database and library rescans
Clean 3.6.0 install from Native Access

This strands every Kontakt library snapshot in the Maschine browser — in my case around
170 libraries. Is a fix planned for the legacy no-PLID path, or are these formats now
unsupported?

macOS <your version>, Apple Silicon <M-series>, Maschine 3.6.0, Kontakt 7 + 8 (AU+VST3).

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mykejb

I just tried loading a preset here and it seems to work ok, am I doing something different to you?

Open Maschine, click the Instruments icon, Click the 24k drums icon, then load one of the presets like "Black Suite Kit". That loads for me here on Maschine 3.60, Kontakt 8.12 running Tahoe 25.6 2.

Kymeia

Can't repro this either on Sequoia - legacy .nabs Absynth libraries load, as do older Kontakt libraries from nksn snapshots (even libraries from ancient times like SC Scriptorium)

Kymeia

Also

REPRODUCIBLE TEST
Take a working preset (Massive X .nksf) and change only the 4-byte plugin magic in its
PLID chunk from Ni$H (Massive X) to NiK8 (Kontakt 8). Nothing else. Maschine then loads
Kontakt from that preset without error. So Kontakt can be instantiated from the browser
perfectly well — only the no-PLID resolution path is broken.

I can't see how this would work, Massive X is a completely different instrument from Kontakt, there's no way a Massive X patch would open in Kontakt, changing one tiny string of code is certainly not going to do anything other than possibly corrupt the file.

Inchange

have the same problem: link, what I've tried already: link

Beatsandmore

Im on windows.. not familiar with Mac. However when you deleted the database did you also delete db3 files plist files LibraryInfo cache

Also check the xml file or possibly in native access run a repair.. im sure you already done it.. that crazy..

Kymeia

One key point - do not try Rosetta mode - this has nothing to do with Apple Silicon, the warning is just a stupid generic warning NI Maschine and Komplate Kontrol have that is highly misleading. All these products support Apple Silicon natively now.

If you do try Rosetta mode it is vital to do a complete on demand scan of all plugins when you go back to native mode in the standalone version (don't rely on the startup scan), otherwise plugins will not reset to native mode, which also leads to this error message.

jorgefriasny

I've tried everything in the book, I just reverted to 3.3.1 for now.

Sensorama

Same here. Also on Mac.

i also have Komplete Kontrol. Since the last update, the same problem has appeared there as well

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/266670#Comment_266670

Can you be more specific please, which libraries or plugins are affected? What is your system. The OP has not been particularly clear whether this is affecting just Kontakt or also other plugins so just saying you have the same problem is also confusing, how do you know it's the 'same problem' if it's so unclear what the problem actually is?

For example the OP states '(.nksn/.nabs/.nifx) fail to load —"getUniquePluginID failed" — ALL Kontakt libraries affected' but those preset formats are not Kontakt formats, only .nksn is. And the 'reproducible test' makes no sense.

Sensorama

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/266685#Comment_266685

I´m on OS 26.5.2 on am Intel Mac Pro.

The problem occurs with all Kontakt instruments.
However, if I load the Kontakt plugin in maschine and then drag a program from trhe maschine browser directly into the plugin window, it will load.

The same applies to Absynth 6 with older presets.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/266700#Comment_266700

Thanks - so that rules out an Apple Silicon issue and also shows Kontakt is working, but not the preset loading from the Maschine browser except via drag and drop - which obviously isn't possible in Komplete Kontrol which you said was also affected. Does that mean you can't load any Kontakt instruments in KK then? Can you give examples of some that won't load?

Absynth 6 is loading almost any legacy patch for me with the exception of 1 older bank that stubbornly resists my efforts to make it load. So when you say 'older presets' do you mean any from the User library/third party or the older ones (in .nabs format) it ships with from Absynth 5 and 6?

Kymeia

OK just seeing another report of something similar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/51484/anyone-else-having-this-issue-cannot-load-plugin-preset-in-komplete-kontrol-mac-m1

Clearly this is not happening to everyone but several similar reports at once warrants investigation.

Sensorama

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/266702#Comment_266702

"Does that mean you can't load any Kontakt instruments in KK then? "

Yes, so far. But the same bug appears in the latest version of Komplete Kontrol (3.5.4).

Everything worked up to version 3.5.4.

Currently I am using versions 3.1.1 of Maschine and 3.5.3 of Komplete Kontrol. In newer Version the VST Plugin of Maschine doesn't work for me in Cubase (the plugin crashes when I close the plugin window), I'm continuing to use version 3.1.1. For me, it's the most stable version.

I've already opened tickets for both errors. Neither of the suggested solutions worked for me.

Kymeia

Very weird, I hope support are able to figure it out - bugs that just affect some people but not everyone can be trickier to pin down. So far the only consistent thing is the reports are on Mac but not the same CPU type, however they do all seem to be on Tahoe

Jeremy_NI

@jorgefriasny @Sensorama I have a version of Maschine 3 for you to test, please let me know if you're interested and I'll send it to you by dm.

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