Maschine sw is not included in Komplete 15

bkisslak · 2024-12-18T16:28:30+00:00

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Native Instruments SUCKS! I just spent over $542.04 to upgrade to KOMPLETE 15 COLLECTORS EDITION and NI didn't include this (Maschine 3 software)? Never ever going to purchase from you in the future. I have spent nearly $5,000 with you folks and I'm a hobbyist producer, not something easy to do. In several years, you will be out of business on the software side of your income stream. It was going to be AI that can deliver any sounds to the person who can describe the sounds they want to hear. Pissing your customers off now won't help you. If you want to hang onto your income streams, treat your customers as well. Basically, you suck as a business.

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donmaddonald

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/189395#Comment_189395

guys can you stop behaving like NI owns you something? it is a business and their do their business choices, good or bad, buy it or leave it, end of the conversation. I don't work for them, I don't care of loosing costumers etc… I am also not happy with something but guess what I decide to buy or not, is up to me, so yes boss, no maschine in Komplete 15, what now? you buy it or you don't, not a native instrument problem. you are saying something like, " I went to McDonalds I bought a Big Mac meal, and they didn't even give me the ice cream" can you understand how silly is your complain?

did you take a look of the plug-ins offered in the Collector edition? there was Maschine 3 included?

bkisslak

You’re going to hang your hat on that answer? You’re missing the point. I’ve spent over $5,000 with NI, and that’s the response you give me? LOL. You’re not getting another dollar from me. I invested in your top-of-the-line products (Collector’s Edition), expecting loyalty to be reciprocated, but NI should treat its loyal customers like the lifeblood of the company. Oh well…

NI and Francisco Partners, AI is coming for your jobs. Many companies are now focused on achieving artificial general intelligence (AGI) and, eventually, artificial super-intelligence (ASI). This transition could happen within the next several years. And long before AGI reaches its full potential, I’ll have the freedom to produce music without Native Instruments.

Sam Altman has promised that ChatGPT-5 will be pushing the limits of AGI for applications like music creation! And if it doesn’t happen with ChatGPT-5, ChatGPT-6 is expected by 2026 or 2027, which should easily make it possible to create and manipulate any sound I can imagine. I could play these sounds directly on my Native Instruments S-Series Komplete Kontrol S88 MK3 keyboard—absolutely any sound I want! That day is coming sooner than expected. NI could soon be little more than a MIDI controller company. I love the S88 MK3! But other models, like the S61 MK3 and S49 MK3, should be reconsidered.

iZotope, on the other hand, is a true gem in software audio. Talk to me in a few years when AI is fully integrated into this space. Francisco Partners, I hope you’re aware of how short-term your investment may be. 😀

donmaddonald

bro what are you talking about?

I DON'T WORK FOR NATIVE INSTRUMENTS! so those $5,000 didn't help me to pay the bills. you are not my costumer. (thank god)

for everything else you said, you didn't make any sense.

they can drop the "robot megatroninc music x 10,000" tomorrow and you still make no sense, if you go to buy groceries in the same place every week, do they give you free stuff? no, same thing.

you can be an investor in NI and they still not obligated to give you free stuff. you are asking for free stuff, and so far it is the most absurd request I heard.

maschine is not part of Collector edition, so you did't pay for it, so you don't get it.

if you want it, you buy it.

even if chat GPT 300 comes out.

Milkman

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/189660#Comment_189660

At first, I was like 😀😀 because I agree that NI and their new private equity people are not respecting many customers - especially long term, high spending customers - but then I was like 🤬🤡 when I saw you promoting what people want to call "AI" music generation and laughing about humans losing their jobs to advanced scripting. Log off, delete your account, etc.

DunedinDragon

Well what do you expect? He comes on here with a grand total of 7 posts complaining about a $547 "investment" as a HOBBYIST PRODUCER…meaning he's never made a dime at it, but he's mad about not getting "freebies".

That's what I like about this place…an endless stream of humor and amusement…..

Jono Rezzillo

I feel for your time and moneys spent also, as I’m feeling the same, I’ve bought into the eco system spent tons on HW and SW let along the Libraries. Then get sold a keyboard that doesn’t boot. pathetic that they can allow these boards out to the world to create even more havoc. All they had to do was place a PSU

Glad I do still have the S88 and other hardware…but won’t venturing too deep with newer hardware after the 25 hours + spent and loss of work trying to get firmware into a board that should just work…
I do now really feel for newbies getting into tech gear nowadays. And how sad it’s becoming.

PK The DJ

"All they had to do was place a PSU"

Have you not heard that governments are working hard to cut down on electrical waste by encouraging companies to ship products that use generic PSUs? This has been happening for some time now.

donmaddonald

please forgive my ignorance… what is a PSU?

mykejb

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/196826#Comment_196826

Power Supply Unit

mykejb

iZotope, on the other hand, is a true gem in software audio. Talk to me in a few years when AI is fully integrated into this space. Francisco Partners, I hope you’re aware of how short-term your investment may be. 😀

um … you do know who owns iZotope?

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/196886#Comment_196886

That is brand new…

Give them time to mess also iZotope products…😂😂😂

Kaiwan_NI

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/40196/maschine-sw-is-not-included-in-komplete-15

Hey so Maschine has never been part of a Komplete bundle. Here's where you can see all products in the bundle before making a purchase: https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/bundles/komplete-15-ultimate/compare/

Herbesh

I think the issue here is that Maschine 3 was released after Komplete 15 came out. The Komplete bundles only include any software up until their release.

PoorFellow

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/228976#Comment_228976

Correct , but also from what I can see then as Kaiwan_NI already has pointed out then Maschine software never came with the Komplete bundles. However then with the S-Series MK2 keyboards then N.I. used to give a "Maschine 2 Essentials Application for S-SERIES Keyboards" when registering that.

Flexi

To be fair, he is actually correct, not only Maschine, but also Traktor should be included in collectors edition (It comes with most of the expansions) it is a large investment and should include everything that NI make, rather than just throwing things in from Plugin Alliance and Izotope, that is if they want people to keep updating, because it is not far off just sample libraries being added now.
It may even drum up interest in Maschine and Traktor hardware.

As for the rest of the stuff in his rant, NI will already be training a model for AI, and you can expect a sample generator to be on the horizon, especially now that other major companies like Waves are in the game, the biggest problem will probably be them trying to do it as subscription instead of one time payment, which will fail miserably.

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