Am I the only one who think beat grids are way harder to deal with in v4?

beigest
beigest Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
in Traktor Software & Hardware

I don't know what it is but version 4 is a total pain to get good beat grids in. First of all, literally every auto-loaded grid for my tracks are not right and resetting the grid never resolves it when that works 80% of the time in v3. And then when I try to make a grid manually it rarely works because it is like there's a latency where the click is off.

I have a gig in a couple weeks and thinking I'm going to roll back to 3 because of this. Really dumb

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  • Just in Case
    Just in Case Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    Same situation here!

    …i just dont get it , how i even can have 1st beat back after removing a original (but wrong) one?
    - i have analyzed track again, but if i just try to add new first beat with traktor, i can see beat marker on right place, but it wont show at all on my kontrol s8 as a "white" button" so i cant use it..???

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,653 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/36120/am-i-the-only-one-who-think-beat-grids-are-way-harder-to-deal-with-in-v4

    Do you have a song that analyzes in tp3 fine, but not in tp4?

    As far as I know the beat detection system did not change. It "should" ™️ be the same. Only now you can set more then one grid zones, which can only be done by hand.

  • ilove1981
    ilove1981 Member Posts: 152 Advisor

    I have noticed there can be significant differences in the grid detection algorithm in TP4. I didn't have issues during the Beta with the songs I was testing with, but since then, I've noticed quite a few grid analyses are off. Don't laugh (please!) but I had to grid "Shania Twain - Man I Feel Like Woman" at a recent wedding and it made a right mess of it. TP3 was fine, so something is different…

  • MrRomo
    MrRomo Member Posts: 6 Member

    Agreed, I have noticed it as well. Ive had to adjust how I analyze tracks. The 1st grid marker button in grid no longer seems to work. However, and I cant find where the setting is, i remember when they made it so grid markers have a "hide" setting, you could turn them back on. But I cant find the setting anymore. It used to be in Analyze Options, there used to be a setting called Hide grid marker. Now that setting is gone.

  • MrRomo
    MrRomo Member Posts: 6 Member

    Ok now that I fooled around with it for a while I have noticed some things… Still no option to hide or show the grid markers BUT…

    Ive found that if I have a track that is detected incorrectly after analyzation, I can click the first grid/hot cue and delete it. still has the incorrect BPM. Delete ALL grid marks by going to Grid and spam the trash can till the grid disappears. Now i can cue the track, set the grid marker and it shows. This only works in the grid section.

    I hope that makes sense. Kinda preferred the old way, but this works too… I think it has to do with how the variable beat grids work. And maybe this is for the best, hard to tell.

  • MrRomo
    MrRomo Member Posts: 6 Member

    Sorry above by "incorrect BPM" above i mean "Incorrect grid".

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,653 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/178844#Comment_178844

    If you have multiple grid markers, it means you set them there. Tp4 does not set multiple on its own.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,653 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/178454#Comment_178454

    I just tried it. TP3 vs TP4. Both detect 125 and are identical.

    TP3

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    TP4

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    With a click track it also sounds like the grid is on point? But I'm not good with that type og genre.

    Anyone got a track that analyses different from tp3 to tp4 please let me know. But please verify yourself first :)

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