NKS Development Discussion

dre4ever

Hi All,

I'm an owner of the S61 MKII. And I've bought several NKS libraries from freelancesoundlabs.com. (@ JesterMgee)

I'm thinking of buying the new S61 MKIII. Will all the NKS libraries work with the new keyboard? And what about the images for the screen. Does they all have to changed to fit the screen?

Thanks in advanced for the reply :)

Greetz

Vagus

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93803#Comment_93803

From my understanding, yes, they will still work. There might need to be some graphics work for the MK3, but already created NKS should be no problem.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93809#Comment_93809

Yes that’s why I’m experimenting with what would be needed to update the graphics. As far as I can tell NKS 1 will still work as long as you add the larger graphics files so they look nicer with the new keyboard. It might be an idea to start adding those to all future templates

dre4ever

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93809#Comment_93809

Thank you for your reply ;)

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93812#Comment_93812

Thank you for your answer ;)

Kymeia

Speaking of templates - here is one for, in my view, one of the best tape fx plugins out there, and also one of the best quirky GUIs

https://aberrantdsp.com/plugins/sketchcassette/

This also has all patches converted to NKS as there were not too many for me to do

In the NKS User Library under Current/Aberrant DSP

Vagus

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93761#Comment_93761

Interesting that Arturia also issued the update for the CS-80 today - maybe that means the keyboards were supposed to arrive earlier...

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93842#Comment_93842

Nice - that is one of the iconic poly aftertouch synths

JesterMgee

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93803#Comment_93803

The files will work so you can load NKS presets.

Images, no idea but if they all need updates that will be a long time coming (if ever) since i've only just come to the end of updating libraries already to VST3, going back and spending weeks/months updating images isn't thrilling me at all.

As usual there is close to no info that will be available to us plebs on the new NKS format so it will require a lot of reverse engineering and probably a new set of tools I will have to develop and likely I will be forced to buy a new keyboard even tho I really do not want one, I personally do not see any benefit or improvements for my use, honestly I am really not sure I even want to at the moment, it's really started to become more hassle than worth lately and i'm doing everything in my power at the moment to not simply pull the pin on further NKS support on my end.

nightjar

We know so little at this point..

At this initial stage, pretty exciting to imagine how things might evolve.

JesterMgee

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93872#Comment_93872

Some of us know a lot more than others, just cannot disclose for legal reasons

nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93873#Comment_93873

Then why did you just state:

As usual there is close to no info that will be available to us plebs on the new NKS format so it will require a lot of reverse engineering and probably a new set of tools

JesterMgee

Because info on the actual NKS standard is not something NI ever disclose unless you are a developer. There are some things tho that some know that others don’t, but the actual useful info is “secret” tho anyone with time and a hex editor can figure it out, would just be nice to not have to spend days doing it…

dre4ever

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93870#Comment_93870

Thank you very much for your explanation ;)

D-One

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/93877#Comment_93877

I'm amazed that to this day people like you and some others in this thread don't get offered the official NKS documentation that they send to plugin development companies... If anything you guys help people stick with NI sw/hw by proving what they or some 3rd parties don't. It could even be a stripped-down version in case there's any sensitive info there that could be used maliciously, which I doubt it would anyway... People will figure it out regardless, why hide it in a transparent box? I don't get it

Even smaller indie devs could use it.

Diam

All looks and sounds cool. It would be nice to know however, if the mk2 users will be getting a firmware/software update to control Kontakt too. We have been waiting to see multis in Komplete Kontrol for a good while. It is highly possible that development for the current firmware has now ceased, but I guess we will know soon enough.