Zoomable and Scrollable Pattern Editor / Piano Roll

Kai_NI · 2024-02-29T09:11:01+00:00

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As a user,

I want to be able to adjust the viewing size of the Pattern Editor / Piano Roll including key sizes, note events and beat grid

in order to

adjust the amount of displayed notes and size of notes to increase convenience when editing.

This relates to the ability to horizontally and vertically zoom and scroll the Pattern Editor / Piano Roll.

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LostInFoundation

@Kai_NI Isn’t the second part already covered now? At least for the horizontal part (zoom and scroll) and vertical scrolling. Do you mean something different?

I would focus the title on the “viewing size of the Pattern Editor” aspect, maybe even by calling it “resizable Editor window”

Kai_NI

Hey @LostInFoundation,

you are correct and your observations are very accurate. The two areas are closely related from a application development standpoint, to a degree where changes on side affect the other and I felt it was important to call out both explicitly. So that there is no misunderstanding such as we would introduce e.g. vertical zoom only on one and not the other.

"Resizeable Editor window" could be misunderstood as adjust the proportions of the Editor compared to the rest of the application and not necessarily its content. "Viewing size of the Pattern Editor" may leave the question open on whether this is intended for the Pad Mode or Keyboard Mode or both.

Either way, as said you are correct. I am happy to change the title if more people find this misleading but would wait for a couple more comments to see how this lands. Thanks for your suggestion in any case and I think in essence, from a functional perspective we all agree in the purpose of this. The goal is clearly to adjust the viewing size to your needs and zoom and scroll as freely and fluidly as one would expect in 2024 :)

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/137022#Comment_137022

The title isn’t misleading at all, since you are focusing on both aspects. Maybe just omitting the part that I consider the real innovation ("Viewing size of the Pattern Editor").

Maybe you could just include both aspects

dmori

Can this be zoomable/scrollable via keyboard shortcuts (on computer) and also via the hardware (a couple of knobs with no parameters are available on HW) to change zoom/scroll in software.

b-righteous

Biggest issue with zoom and scroll for me is actually the arranger follow. It will not follow across scenes/sections in the timeline to keep the notes displayed in sync with what you hear. You are forced to pick up the mouse and click every pattern or clip you need displayed.

Also want a simple 1/2 or full horizontal zoom for the right display of the hardware that will stay locked across all scenes and be remembered with the project.

Nenenyc212

sorry if this should be under a different folder/topic, but I would welcome if I could see the entire pattern by default. Currently, whenever I open a project I have to zoom in to see the entire pattern which is not the end of the world but would just be nice to not have to do each time. Thanks.

pauljames510

I would like to be able to use Maschine VST plugin with a resizable GUI. Right now there are three sizes and no full screen as a VST. If I could drag the lower right corner to resize to my liking and go full screen that would be nice when using Maschine in plugin mode.

kbryarly

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/140799#Comment_140799

I agree that for me, one of the most frustrating things is that the"follow" command cannot be 'locked' - such that Maschine always follows the timeline - even after you stop and edit something. To me, the Follow Button works in exactly the opposite way it should. Maschine should always be in follow mode - unless you engage the "STOP FOLLOW" button.

Metzger Beats

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/140799#Comment_140799

This is a big one for me. Adding on–There should be a fix for how we edit events.

Example: If I delete an event at the 4.2 mark, the software reverts/selects the event at 1.1 on the timeline, forcing me to scroll back to where I was. The program should choose the next closest event.