Save custom User presets for Built-in Plugins/Modules.

Antonio B

Sorry for the sarcasm but it is frustrating that the most basic of functionality doesn't work well. I save a Poly Synth Sound. It doesn't ask me where to save it (ok, thats fine) it saves it with all my other sounds in user/documents/native instruments/machine 2/sounds. Great. But now I go to the browser. Sure, it's in my user section...BUT...ONLY if I click OFF type "Poly Synth". However, if I do click on type "Poly Synth", well then it shows me a sound I saved...with a Super 8 synth patch. Ugh 😓

Sunborn

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/26805/library-browser-basic-functionality-too-much-to-ask

You are looking in the wrong directory. Your Poly Synth preset should be at:

C:\Users\user_name\Documents\Native Instruments\Maschine 2\Plug-ins

After you close and re-open Maschine, it will scan the User directory again and it will find it.

Then go to User --> All Instruments

There, find Maschine and open it. All you saved presets are there. But they are untagged.

Find your preset and click the EDIT button at the bottom.

There, add Type, Characters or Properties to you preset and click the Apply button.

You are ready. :-)

Antonio B

Thanks for the reply. It’s not the Instruments/presets. It’s the sounds tab (saved preset with effects, etc) - the file that is created when Save/turn knob to Sound/save again process. Those go automatically in sound folder. I would say half at least of the patches I create rely on additional efx for their sound character so I do save the preset but I also save as sound to preserve the efx slots. So when I go to sound and click poly synth, none of those show up.

I have to admit, Ive rarely use the browser in my work flow up to now. I use templates instead with the few quality synths I like best, plus one slot for NI Instruments like analog dreams, modular icons, etc. So the purpose of the browser for me is mainly to quickly find a sound or preset from a particular plugin quickly. I’m going to just have to dedicate a whole a session to dig into and learn how to use the browser more effectively :)

I will try the Edit function for checking properties. Luckily I’ve made about only 40 of my own patches across a few plugins so it won’t be too time consuming to go and tag them all properly so I have quicker access to them :)

the whole file structure for all the plug-ins is all over the place. Some third party plugins (Vital for example) store their presets in user library, etc. I’m too OCD for these different directories. Lol. I would prefer to have all my presets in one user file.

Antonio B

Additionally, another confusion: Arturia Minifreak shows up in vendors under instruments but not my Korg MicroKorg VSt. I figured that out by saving a MicroKorg patch - now it shows up :) Im guessing now I just throw all my presets from the micrKorg into that file now? Is that the only way to get other instruments to show up - by saving a patch? Is there a better way?

Thanks

Ciao!

Sunborn

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134506#Comment_134506

This is because Arturia is fully NKS compatible, but Korg is not! Not officially.

There are some Korg NKS in the free public library but not for the MicroKorg.

The only available source is to buy them from Freelance Soundlabs, here:

https://freelancesoundlabs.com/index.php/downloads/komplete-kontrol-vst-packs/item/462-korg-collection-4-nks-library-for-komplete-kontrol-maschine

Note: If you only have microKorg and not the entire collection, ask @JesterMgee if he's willing to offer you that part only.

Antonio B

I'll check it out. Thanks. I've been getting a handle on things a little more in the browser. Korg is showing up along with other synths once I save a preset - which I'm saving in the NI user folder in a single user presets folder - just to keep everything simple. Still, would be nice to be asked where to file things when saving "sounds" like it does when saving presets.

JesterMgee

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134573#Comment_134573

All the separate korg libraries from the Korg Collection are available here:

https://freelancesoundlabs.com/index.php/downloads/komplete-kontrol-vst-packs/item/389

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134573#Comment_134573

You can tell it where to save sounds - just click on the 'show path' in the save as dialogue, then click on the path and it will let you choose an alternative path

Antonio B

Hi - Thats for "presets" not "sounds". Thanks anyway :)

Sunborn

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134645#Comment_134645

I think we have a misunderstanding here...

When you are saving something from a synth, no matter if it is the internal Polysynth, or the VST Korg, Arturia, or whatever else, you are always saving presets, not sounds!

So, you are probably mean something else here. Can you make some screenshots to help us understand what you mean? One to show where you load the instrument, one to show which "save as" you are actually using.

Antonio B

Everyone seems to be assuming that I meant presets but I specifically said saving sounds in my first post and I clarified in my second post as well.🙂 No worries, I figured it out. If I save a sound, not a "preset", but a sound (i.e. saves the preset and all efx plugins - and is also the terminology that NI uses), if I use the controller, it does not allow me to choose the directory, but if I control click in the software on the sound slot (where the piano roll is) it will prompt me first where to save the sound file. So I don't think this is a semantic issue. As I stated originally, when I go to save/turn knob to "sound"/press save again - that saves a sound (a preset witj all other efx plugins - which is technically not saving a preset which is only saving the parameters in the plugin/synth exclusively. Thanks

D-One

PolySynth actually uses the Sound tab for it's own library, which makes sense if you consider the original Prophet 5 had fx and Maschine PolySynth does not... So, nothing wrong with saving as sound or it being there, there's no other way to save with FX chain.

it's in my user section...BUT...ONLY if I click OFF type "Poly Synth"

That's because it's not tagged with "Poly Synth". My workaround advice if you make custom user PolySynth presets often:

1. Load the Innit Preset (that for some odd reason is in the Instruments browser) and save it as a Sound.
2. Tag that new innit as "PolySynth" then each time you want to make a new preset start with that innit, because the original was tagged when you use Save-As it will preserve it.

IMO this is more practical than always tagging each new preset you make.

You can take it a step further and have sub-tags innits, for Pads, Keys, Brass and whatever else you make.

Antonio B

Thanks! That is a GREAT idea using the initialized patch. Ya, I'm not sure why everyone was confusing "sound" with "preset". They are two different dave functions.

Ciao

Sunborn

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134856#Comment_134856

...lol, i think i know why!

This is probably because we used to work with instruments and save presets, rather than saving sounds.

Personally i never used that feature before, because (as said) i work mostly with synths, and even when i use samples, i have a huge library, so i never needed to save something from the internal modules as a sound! I mean, if i want a Polysynth i have plenty of VST's with hundreds and hundreds of presets to do so. And even when tweak them or modify them, i save is as a preset again. :-)

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134645#Comment_134645

Nope - if you look in the slots below the OPSix in my screenshot these are all called 'sounds' - I loaded OPSix in one of the Sound slots then saved it - the terms are used interchangeably.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/134856#Comment_134856

If there is 'confusion' I think it's because the 2 terms are used pretty interchangeably - as my screenshot shows where you have plugins loaded into a Sounds slot and when you save it the dialogue calls it a preset.