Battery 4.2.0 - suddenly, knobs/faders don't work

Michalis
Michalis Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
edited March 2022 in Battery 4

Hi!

I'm using Battery 4.2.0 (I recently updated to this via Native Access) and now the knobs and faders inside the plugin are barely responsive when moved/turned. Is anyone else experiencing this? I haven't made any other changes to Battery or my workflow except installing this update.

  • Scrolling with a mouse works normally when hovering over the knobs -- it's only when clicking and dragging knobs / faders
  • There are no MIDI CC parameters set to anything
  • There is no automation on the tracks / plug-ins

It's as if there's a ghost in the machine pulling the knobs and faders back to a specific value no matter how I move them...

Thanks!

macOS 10.15.7

Logic 10.6.3

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  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 7,113 mod
    Answer ✓

    Hey there, are you all using Waves plug-ins ? Like for the latest updates of Maschine, there is a bug on Waves' side in older Waveshells, this got fixed with Waveshell 13. If you don't plan on updating your Waves plug-ins here is an older version of Battery 4: BATTERY 4.1.6

  • Obe1
    Obe1 Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
    Answer ✓

    I just installed Waves v13 and knobs work again. Kind of sucks I had to spend $240 to update Waves plugins I didn't intend on updating to make a Native Instruments product I already bought, work. But it is what it is.

  • franklyn
    franklyn Member Posts: 26 Member
    edited January 2022 Answer ✓

    Ok, thank you Jeremy for the explanation. I deinstalled all Waves and installed V13 (some are also V12 like Studio Rack because there is no V13) and now Battery works fine again. This is so strange

    But I am happy that it works, after a long installation day :)

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  • IlMolto
    IlMolto Member Posts: 11 Member

    Yep, same problem here when using as a VST plugin inside Cubase since updating Battery. There should be an easy way to revert to the previous version when things like this happen.

  • sho
    sho Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Same issue here. After update to 4.2, any of the knob or the fader can't be moved normally. When Click/dragged, knobs or fader just kind of wiggles and goes nowhere. I just have to use mouse wheel to slowly move the value.

    macOS 10.14.6 and Cubase 11. Haven't tried on other DAWs yet.

  • Plutonium
    Plutonium Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Exact same problem here! Drives me craaaaazy!!! MacOS 12 Monterey on M1 Max processor.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 7,113 mod
    Answer ✓

    Hey there, are you all using Waves plug-ins ? Like for the latest updates of Maschine, there is a bug on Waves' side in older Waveshells, this got fixed with Waveshell 13. If you don't plan on updating your Waves plug-ins here is an older version of Battery 4: BATTERY 4.1.6

  • Michalis
    Michalis Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/1048#Comment_1048

    I don't use any waves plugins so there must be another problem then.

    Went back to last version Battery 4.1.6 and now it works again.

    Thanks! :)

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 7,113 mod
    edited January 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/1134#Comment_1134

    Oh, that's interesting. We would need to investigate further in this case. I'll get in touch by email.

  • IlMolto
    IlMolto Member Posts: 11 Member

    I’m on V13 for all my Waves products. This issue only started happening straight after updating Battery to 4.2.0.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 7,113 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/1229#Comment_1229

    Do you still have older Waveshell versions in your plug-in folders ? Have you tried moving them from there, even temporarily to check if that fixes the issue ? If you have already checked this and still got this problem, I'll contact you by email.

  • IlMolto
    IlMolto Member Posts: 11 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/1303#Comment_1303

    I had some V12 plugins in the Waves folder. I used Waves Central to uninstall all V12 plugins. The problem still persists with Battery.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 7,113 mod
    edited January 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/1330#Comment_1330

    I got in touch by email, we'd like to have a closer look on your system to do some further troubleshooting.

  • SpiderMix
    SpiderMix Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Yep. It's awful that Native Instruments have not updated Battery in AGES.....then they update it and the darn knobs don't work. I honestly wish there was a program with Battery's workflow that I could switch too. Not cool Native Instruments. Not cool at all.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 7,113 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/2088#Comment_2088

    Hey there, as explained earlier in this post, it's most likely an issue with Waves plug-ins, and the fix is coming from their side in Waveshell v13. Are you using Waves plug-ins ?

  • Obe1
    Obe1 Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
    edited January 2022

    Yes I have this problem too. I didn't see that NI has already responded.

  • franklyn
    franklyn Member Posts: 26 Member

    I have the same issue in ProTools (AAX) and Studio One (VST). Standalone works !

    I think the fix has to come from NI, why should Waves solve this? Makes no sense to me.

    When Battery 4.16 works it should be possible to fix 4.2 :)

    People, what's up, we can not work any more with this update. 🙏 🙏 🙏

  • franklyn
    franklyn Member Posts: 26 Member

    update: oooooh man, I installed 4.1.6 and now the DAW projects do not open my saved battery instances.

    so downgrading makes no sense. any news about a solution?

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