Komplete 14 on Windows 7
I am interested in buying Komplete Standard 14 in the current sale. However I am unsure whether it will work correctly on my Windows 7 system. I already own and run a few NI products, guitar rig 5 and the 60s 70s 80s etc drummer software. These all run fine on Windows 7 through Kontakt 6.4.1
My first question is around licensing, if I buy Komplete 14 will this license still be useable with legacy Kontakt 6, i.e. will I still be able to download the old Kontakt 6 versions of the software through Native Access under this new license, I am currently on version 1.12.1.129 of Native Access and have read that I can go up to 1.14.1 on windows 7.
My second question is: can I find out which instruments and expansions included in Komplete Standard 14 will still be available to install through Native Access 1.14.1 / Kontakt 6. I am sure that some will only work on the windows 10/11 o/s but is there any list of which would still work on windows 7? I was particularly interested in using the India and Middle East spotlight packs and also Massive.
Thanks for any help on this, I have tried NI support but have yet to get any response.
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Absolutely not.
Minimum system requirements are:
Windows 10 (64-bit, latest Service Pack) or Windows 11 (latest Service Pack)
Intel Core i5 or equivalent CPU, 4 GB RAM (6 GB recommended)
Graphics hardware support for OpenGL 2.1 or higher, and Direct 3D 11.1 or higher
Also, Massive X requires an AVX compatible CPU.
That said, my one and only strong suggestion is to leave this archaic system ASAP and upgrade to Windows 10. You really have no idea what are you missing, not only about music production but on every level!
Your second question is also i big "no"! (sorry)... Of course you may continue using Kontakt 6 but, Native Access has to be updated, 1.14.1 is really old version. Also keep in mind that many new expansions were actually made to work on Kontakt 7 so, they might not fully work (at least some of their parameters).
Massive will work fine however. Also, you will not have licensing problems.
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1) Licencing. Yes, you will keep all old licences and be able to install and authorise all you have now.
2) Most of Plugins that are in Komplete 13 Ultimate CE did run under Win7. Guitar Rig 6, Super 8 (v.2) and one more thing were declared Win10/11 only, but there was a way to install even those and use them without problems.
My guess is that NI just does not test new SW on Win7 and also does not want to provide the user support for this OS, but SW may be installed and used....
Massive should work, India did work for sure. Middle East I do not know, but it has been released before Kontakt 7, so it should run on Kontakt 6.
Maybe that even Kontakt 7 runs under Win7.
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Middle East should be also OK, I had East Asia in mind, not ME...
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You are right. But I run all K13U CE on Win7. So, I am pretty sure, most of K14 would work on Win7. But there might be problem with authorisation and so. NA2 does not run on Win7, I guess and NA1 does not show all new SW. At least users complain about it.
You are right that Win7 is old and so on. But one may need to run it because of reasons (to be able to run things that do not run under higher Win version), or one just prefers Win7 to Win10/11.
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I just answered in another post here: Windows 10 required for Komplete 14?
All the current products require Windows 10 or 11. Newer products are not officially supported on WIndows 7, which is also not supported anymore by Microsoft. So, yes, the latest products and updates are not intended for or tested on WIndows 7 and we won't offer support in case of issues. You can find older updates of current and legacy products that are compatible with WIndows 7 though: Compatibility of Native Instruments Products on Windows
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I understand that they may or may not all install, it was just to confirm whether I am actually licensed to do it and that old versions eg, earlier versions of massive would show up in NA1 to download with this license?
That would be fine, the licese would cover everything that would appear in NA1 but some stuff of late will not appear in NA1 to istall because that is becoming depreciated too, latest KK and Maschine updates I believe do not even appear in there.
Def time for an OS and system update tho.
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Yes you will keep all licences you have and new licences of what you do not have will be added.
So, you will have Kontakt 6 and Kontakt 7 licence. I have old licence chain and have Kontakt 5, 6 and 7...
What NA1 will do I do not know. It should install everything till Kontakt 13 (except GR6, Super 8 and maybe one other thing) and few more, released later.....
But you may try to get ISOs using Win10/11, for those that do not show in NA1. And install it on Win7.
I still have also Win7 and Komplete 14, so I could try what NA1 will do. But trouble is, that I have many licences, so it would not be sure, which licence NA1 has used, if something older, or from K14....
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Absolutely not.
Minimum system requirements are:
Windows 10 (64-bit, latest Service Pack) or Windows 11 (latest Service Pack)
Intel Core i5 or equivalent CPU, 4 GB RAM (6 GB recommended)
Graphics hardware support for OpenGL 2.1 or higher, and Direct 3D 11.1 or higher
Also, Massive X requires an AVX compatible CPU.
That said, my one and only strong suggestion is to leave this archaic system ASAP and upgrade to Windows 10. You really have no idea what are you missing, not only about music production but on every level!
Your second question is also i big "no"! (sorry)... Of course you may continue using Kontakt 6 but, Native Access has to be updated, 1.14.1 is really old version. Also keep in mind that many new expansions were actually made to work on Kontakt 7 so, they might not fully work (at least some of their parameters).
Massive will work fine however. Also, you will not have licensing problems.
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1) Licencing. Yes, you will keep all old licences and be able to install and authorise all you have now.
2) Most of Plugins that are in Komplete 13 Ultimate CE did run under Win7. Guitar Rig 6, Super 8 (v.2) and one more thing were declared Win10/11 only, but there was a way to install even those and use them without problems.
My guess is that NI just does not test new SW on Win7 and also does not want to provide the user support for this OS, but SW may be installed and used....
Massive should work, India did work for sure. Middle East I do not know, but it has been released before Kontakt 7, so it should run on Kontakt 6.
Maybe that even Kontakt 7 runs under Win7.
EDIT.
Middle East should be also OK, I had East Asia in mind, not ME...
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Yeah but don't you think that there are too many "maybe", "might" and "should", for someone to spend his money almost blindly, instead of doing the obvious thing, to upgrade to Windows 10 first (which is still free i think), instead of use a 14 year old (and officially unsupported since 2020) system? Even if he manage to run some of the Komplete stuff, i guarantee that problems might arise fast (such us incompatible CPU, or just unable to handle a modern software), maybe graphic problems (if he has an old GPU too) and many more...
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You are right. But I run all K13U CE on Win7. So, I am pretty sure, most of K14 would work on Win7. But there might be problem with authorisation and so. NA2 does not run on Win7, I guess and NA1 does not show all new SW. At least users complain about it.
You are right that Win7 is old and so on. But one may need to run it because of reasons (to be able to run things that do not run under higher Win version), or one just prefers Win7 to Win10/11.
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I just answered in another post here: Windows 10 required for Komplete 14?
All the current products require Windows 10 or 11. Newer products are not officially supported on WIndows 7, which is also not supported anymore by Microsoft. So, yes, the latest products and updates are not intended for or tested on WIndows 7 and we won't offer support in case of issues. You can find older updates of current and legacy products that are compatible with WIndows 7 though: Compatibility of Native Instruments Products on Windows
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Many thanks to everyone for your replies!
I agree my system is pretty archaic now but as Kubrak mentioned I didn’t upgrade it as it is stable and I didn’t want any of my old software to stop working. I will try to build a new PC in the future when time and money allows which will be running Win 10/11 so I am happy to buy NI Komplete 14 now and accept being stuck on Kontakt 6 etc in the short term.
i just wanted to clarify from your replies to my first question that if I buy Komplete 14, this will still provide me with the license to run the NI instruments in Kontakt 6 through NA1? I understand that they may or may not all install, it was just to confirm whether I am actually licensed to do it and that old versions eg, earlier versions of massive would show up in NA1 to download with this license?
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I understand that they may or may not all install, it was just to confirm whether I am actually licensed to do it and that old versions eg, earlier versions of massive would show up in NA1 to download with this license?
That would be fine, the licese would cover everything that would appear in NA1 but some stuff of late will not appear in NA1 to istall because that is becoming depreciated too, latest KK and Maschine updates I believe do not even appear in there.
Def time for an OS and system update tho.
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Yes you will keep all licences you have and new licences of what you do not have will be added.
So, you will have Kontakt 6 and Kontakt 7 licence. I have old licence chain and have Kontakt 5, 6 and 7...
What NA1 will do I do not know. It should install everything till Kontakt 13 (except GR6, Super 8 and maybe one other thing) and few more, released later.....
But you may try to get ISOs using Win10/11, for those that do not show in NA1. And install it on Win7.
I still have also Win7 and Komplete 14, so I could try what NA1 will do. But trouble is, that I have many licences, so it would not be sure, which licence NA1 has used, if something older, or from K14....
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