New road map updated for 02/2023.
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In addition to the Stems feature, special fx application feature comes to all layers such as vocal and drum to the controllers. It is important that it supports this in the software. What about this part of the race?
What about the compatibility of the devices?
What will be the compatibility in the class of modular devices? Will this side continue?
They must unite to ignite this community. Even if they don't put it in the technical place, they should be together as opportunities. This should be the way the tractor community will follow. The Traktor team should make big initiatives. Otherwise, those here disappear.
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So... Rekordbox released their version of Stem separation today. Available FREE to all users. Same goes for Serato-Free.
Rekordbox version of Stem separation is not as good as Serato, and probably takes 3rd place if Virtual Dj comes in conversation. But they have made it available it for their users.
For Traktor, it's still on a roadmap to be delivered somewhere in Q3 2023, with intention to be available only as payed option.
Wow...
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I recon NI Stems will be on the next level.
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I sure hope so. I does bother me that Traktor will be the last to implement the option, being the first to enter the Stems game.
I see Stems in Traktor 4.0 with dedicated hardware.
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I think so too Stevan. I’m hoping for really good integration with S4 MK3. I must admit though I do like the look of the DMX capability with flx 10. One to watch but I’m holding out for Traktor Stems to see what they can do. On the dj site forums though a fair few folk looking to jump ship from Traktor to other platforms. I hope Traktor doesn’t leave it too late.
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Exactly. Traktor has all the pieces of the puzzle years ahead. Now it is years behind.
DigitalDJTips says this perfectly:
control stems (first seen on the Traktor Kontrol S8 back in an archaic, failed previous incarnation of the stems idea)
Who in NI management will bear the accountability consequence please?
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Can we please get a single deck hardware option from NI?
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Very interesting discussion on the Maschine forum on a requested M roadmap, and NI history in general
https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/7240/maschine-roadmap/p3
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Not very inspiring?
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Did anyone else notice that this beta (M1 native) is consuming more resources than 3.5 (via Rosetta)?
MBP M1, 512 GB, 16 GB
It felt like power consumption was higher in this beta and the numbers are confirming this in the Activity Monitor.
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Maybe it's not an optimized "release" build??? Perhaps it's using additional resources for debugging, profiling, etc. I have no clue. I'm just guessing. Hopefully the official release will be better.
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Just FYi
Even for fully paid version of Traktor Pro Stems was available at this point, All Of A sudden, it's on a monthly plan for use.
Interesting times.....
I am keeping my eye on this forum but I doubt I will be sticking with Traktor much longer have recently started using my Roland DJ-505 DJ controller with Serato in the clubs & ai am pretty amazed.
Still have Alot to understand but Serato for now is worth it.
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Don't confuse stem files with automated stem separation. Former is included in pro, later will only be available for pro plus.
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There are too many people secretly escaping to other platforms, should we open a topic where people tell the differences between them?
would it be ethical?
can we eat ban :))
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Yup.
Is Serato business model so good, they can afford to give Stem separation "for free" to all of their users? "For free" meaning not charging monthly as Traktor roadmap suggests in near future, and owning some hardware that unlocks the Pro version, or just buying the perpetual licence.
Traktor went for the bedroom dj's, pushing the software price to 50 euros, and opening DVS to every single sound card. I still don't see everyone using Traktor, but massively adopting Serato, or Rekordbox for conveniece of playing with usb sticks only.
Rekordbox gave Stem separation to all of the users. Yes, the separation sounds pretty bad, and it only has 3 stems, instead of Serato's 4. I bet they will "unlock" the 4th stem in future, for monthly subscription.
I love Traktor, i love the freedom and speed that it gives me (with previous preparation), and i have been an active user since 2007-2008. But users asking for flex grids for 10 years, and now stem separation for some 2 years or so, and NI giving us pattern player..?
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