Gets a prompt to save when opening Maschine as empty project

Guitoune
Guitoune Member Posts: 15 Member
edited October 2024 in Maschine

Hi,

I'm experiencing something that is frustrating me.

I set up Maschine to open an empty project at launch, and after it I want to choose the project to open using my MK3.

Unfortunately Maschine creates automatically a new Group and the project is flag as "Need to save" with the star after the "New Project" title, so when I open the project I want, I have this window opening "Do you want to save..." and I need to use my computer to click "Discard" everytime.

So two choices :

  • Don't flag a project as modified until we load something to a Sound or a Group.
  • Allow us to use Hardware to decide what to do.

Have a nice day.

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  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,756 mod

    Hum.... The Group is not the problem, you're doing something else that is triggering an "undo" state or some kind of change, if that happens Maschine assumes something was done and prompts to save/discard.

    If I just open a new project and press "Browser" and load something Maschine does not ask me anything, it just loads the project. Double-check what you're doing, on MacOS you can see what triggers a save state because a asterisk* will show in the topbar (should be similar on windows? not sure)

    Screen Shot 2022-03-13 at 20.49.48.png

    Something as simple as pressing a Pad will trigger that.

    Even if you need to discard that should be possible from the HW with button 7, don't you get this menu:

    discard.jpg

    ??

  • ShelLuser
    ShelLuser Member Posts: 270 Pro

    Are you using Maschine as a VST @Guitoune ?

    Normally this shouldn't matter but... I experienced the same thing within Live at one time as well. Until Ableton apparently changed stuff and after that things behaved as expected.

    So if you are using Maschine as VST you should contact the DAW devs about this first.

    Still... if this behavior also happens while running Maschine stand alone then someting else is not right. In that case I'd also look at the hardware for possible causes (try unhooking the controller, fire up the software and then: File => New). Then hook the controller back up and try again. If the behavior changes then... it could be a flakey rotary or something.

    Hope this could help!

  • Guitoune
    Guitoune Member Posts: 15 Member
    edited March 2022

    Thanks for your reply,

    Something I think I wasn't clear about is that I set up Maschine in Preferences to not load the last Project, so it loads an empty project, maybe it changes.

    I use Maschine as Standalone @ShelLuser , I will try what you said.

    @D-One I will take time to see if something is changing after a load ( and yes I also have this asterisk on Windows )

    And I use a Mikro MK3, so I don't have this buttons to handle software unfortunately...

  • Johnny-123
    Johnny-123 Member Posts: 1 Member
    edited February 2023

    I get this same problem. With or without a controller.

    Some projects always load with an asterisk next to the name so the Cancel/Discard/Save dialog appears. This is especially annoying when browsing with a controller because I have to finer my trackpad and click Discard. (No keyboard shortcuts for that.)

    It only seems to be a problem with with some libraries. For instance, Backyard Jams triggers the dialog, while Community 2021 does not.

    Maddening.

  • uvb
    uvb Member Posts: 10 Member

    Seems to me that Maschine SW opens every project with a status of needing be saved before any button is pressed on the keyboard or the controller - a new project or an existing project.

  • darkwaves
    darkwaves Member Posts: 475 Guru

    I have an old version of maschine on my current computer and don't have any projects available to test. Opening a new project is fine. Switching from ideas view to the arrangement view and back tags it as a changed project.

    Even more strange; if I've create a new project and just hit play; no problem. It doesn't tag it as changed. If I switch to arrangement view and back; it's tagged as changed. If I then create a new project using file, new (discarding changes) and hit play in the new project; it's tagged as changed.

    https://imgur.com/695hqqb

    I assume this means you're going to trigger the 'changed' state if you move around the project much or hit play. I could understand if there is automation/modulation moving knobs around, but I'm not sure I understand the logic that's occurring in my example gif

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,756 mod
    edited May 2024

    @darkwaves

    Opening a new project is fine. Switching from ideas view to the arrangement view and back tags it as a changed project.

    How come thats strange? I might want to switch from Ideas to Song and save so that project always opens in Song Mode - So switching triggers a state change.

  • darkwaves
    darkwaves Member Posts: 475 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/153396#Comment_153396

    It didn't change when I switched from ideas view to song mode. It changes when going back to ideas view. I could follow the logic if it changed on the first switch.

    Pressing play moves the playhead, but doesn't seem to trigger the change state unless I switch from ideas to song mode and back to ideas first. After doing that once, even a new project has the change state triggered by pressing play

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,756 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/153425#Comment_153425

    Oh, I see… That is indeed odd.

    I just quickly compared with my DAW and it doesn't have this behavior of prompting for save on small things like changing views or plyhead/play location…

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