Why does the S4MK3 still not have MIDI mode?

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  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,262 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/53604#Comment_53604

    Not sure what is the point of midi mode when you cannot edit it but yeah. I don't own these controllers to test myself but many users reported this issue about removed midi mode, and I know in fact that it was in Controller Manager once. Either way it is not looking good and it is not an upgrade when compared to MK2 version. Really strange decisions of the makers.

  • zephry
    zephry Member Posts: 699 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/53611#Comment_53611

    Look at available controller drivers or the ones installed when updating. The S4mk3 is not an option. It is built in to Traktor.

  • Markovicz
    Markovicz Customer Care Posts: 381 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/53629#Comment_53629

    I am not quite sure whether I understand you correctly. By default, the S4MK3 uses the Windows system driver WASAPI (Exckusive). If you prefer an ASIO driver, you will find it on your computer as well:

    I Cannot Find the ASIO Driver for My TRAKTOR KONTROL S2 MK3 / S4 MK3 / S3 (Windows)

  • Iceman the Dj
    Iceman the Dj Member Posts: 32 Helper

    I gues that some people don't understand that the driver is only for audio and has nothing to do with MIDI! Also as I see I can mapp most controls of S4 mk3 inside Traktor. My complain was not being able to select effects. Now I mapped the FX knobs + Shift to select effects and the FX buttons to some FX presets/combinations that I use often so I can recal quicly! It would be nice to be able to use the controller also for some controls in my DAW but that's it... 

  • zephry
    zephry Member Posts: 699 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/53643#Comment_53643

    What I mean is that the S4mk3 is different and that the automated driver selected is one of the differences. I guess it doesn't impact mapping, I guess it was off topic and confusing. Sorry.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,262 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/55510#Comment_55510

    Thanks for the insight. With S4 MK3 being not MIDI capable, could we have more Global MIDI controls so we are able to output from Traktor and send to other MIDI capable software in that way?

    Just want to have more use of my hardware out of Traktor and only 8 does not cut it.

  • MichaelK_NI
    MichaelK_NI Product Team Posts: 95 mod

    @Stevan what number are you thinking of? :)

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,262 mod

    @MichaelK_NI I am referring to the number of each of Global MIDI controls that were introduced with S8 performance section remapping. (MIDI Buttons, Knobs and Faders)

    Screenshot 2023-02-28 at 13.49.19.png


  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,385 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/55657#Comment_55657

    The # of modifiers (8) as well as their range (0-7) could easily be extended to something like 50 x (0-127).

    That would not only be incredibly uncomplicated, compared to other tasks at hand, but also extremely helpful for mapping anything and everything. 🦋😎🦋

  • dj_estrela
    dj_estrela Member Posts: 167 Pro
    edited February 2023
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/55745#Comment_55745

    THIS

    the quickest way to add value to customers is simply to give more of everything.

    Not to code new features.

    eg: more modifiers, more modifier bits, more conditions, more FX units, access to 9x mixerFX without sending mouse clicks to the prefs window, merging TP2 macroFX in TP3 mixerFX, and vice-versa.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURM7l6_pvg

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,262 mod
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    10 year ago was the original request for modifiers^

    Never had a singe response from NI about it. I can add another device, it slows down the opening/closing/saving times bit it works.

    On the other side, the S4 MK3 is useless outside Traktor for me (I don't count other DJ software) so adding more global midi controls would make the S4 more capable in MIDI.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,262 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/55657#Comment_55657

    More is better :)

    32 of each type maybe?

  • marinelli
    marinelli Member Posts: 31 Helper


    All i wanted to complain about is the fact that I have a pretty good Midi controller with a brilliant multi I/O soundcard that is not usable to control any other software than Traktor. Once NI was on the bright side of the force making cool stuff and encouraging people to do creative stuff with their products. Of course NI can do whatever they want but I don't need another company in my life acting like ****** PioneerDJ.


    And honestly, I don't get @MichaelK_NI 's answer. I know, displays, jogwheels and stuff. Just give us MIDI mode for the faders and buttons and I'm, good. :-)

  • marinelli
    marinelli Member Posts: 31 Helper


    All i wanted to complain about is the fact that I have a pretty good Midi controller with a brilliant multi I/O soundcard that is not usable to control any other software than Traktor. Once NI was on the bright side of the force making cool stuff and encouraging people to do creative stuff with their products. Of course NI can do whatever they want but I don't need another company in my life acting like ****** PioneerDJ.


    And honestly, I don't get @MichaelK_NI 's answer. I know, displays, jogwheels and stuff. Just give us MIDI mode for the faders and buttons and I'm, good. :-)

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