my komplete kontrol do not manage my plugins

Christ Millois
Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member
edited March 3 in Komplete Kontrol

When I want to automate controls like dynamic, vibrato etc.. on a track of my DAW, it is impossible for me to manipulate them with my Komplete Kontrol S88. I can only do it with my mouse!

I am on Mac Mini Ventura. 13.6.1

My Daw is logic Pro 10.7.9

My Komplete Kontrol version is 2.9.6.

I have already contacted Apple Logic support and everything is ok for the Logic configuration

Thank you for your help

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,308 mod
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    It seems that kk doesn't like those plugins or the os, I don't speak french, so you can try to remove the plugins from the vst folder and try again. You should find the plugins here:

    User/"your user name"/Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST or something like that - we need to get kk running!!!

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,308 mod

    Hello,

    you can only write automation data for the first instrument, not fx loaded after that instrument. But if you mean the instrument can you tell us what instrument exactly do you try to automate or do you try to automate a multi instrument.

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    Thank you in fact, once I have recorded my violins on my track, I would like to come back to my Violin plug-in and work on the dynamics, Vibrato etc .. with automation

    That what I want to do all instrument on Kontact or Spitfire etc.

  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 5,968 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/42881/my-komplete-kontrol-do-not-manage-my-plugs-ing

    my Komplete Kontrol S88

    Exact keyboard version ? MK1 ? , MK2 ? , ???

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    I bought it quite a few years ago, I think it's the MK1

  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 5,968 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/213432#Comment_213432

    Thank you , A MK1 might be limited compare to later models , I don't know but someone else might need the information.

    What you can and can not control might depend on the specific library product that you are trying to use .

    I tried to locate some general information , check if any of this is of help ? :

    (Fixed) Logic Pro doesn't do automation with Komplete Kontrol knobs (S61)

    Maybe this also apply to K.K ? : If there are controller assignments in Logic assigned to your control surface then that might be what was preventing you from using Learn CC in Kontakt. If you delete those controller assignments then the controllers should automatically get passed on to Kontakt and allow you to assign them directly in Kontakt.

    That was from this other discussion concerning another make of keyboard which is also going on here.

    And apparently there has also been some problem with some version of Logic Pro : Komplete Kontrol and Logic Pro 10.4.5 but that probably does not concern your version. Sorry I neither have the keyboard model , the DAW or the general use background so this is all that I could attempt to do for you.

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    Thank you I've already tried this and I also had a nanocontrol that never worked with Logic!!

    And Apple doesn't know what to answer me either... I'm lost...:-(

  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 5,968 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/213455#Comment_213455

    And Apple doesn't know what to answer me either... I'm lost...:-(

    Before completely giving up then we will run this by @Jeremy_NI tomorrow to see if he has something to add ?

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 13,785 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/42881/my-komplete-kontrol-do-not-manage-my-plugs-ing

    Really important, does Komplete Kontrol and Logic all have full disk access? How to Enable Full Disk Access on macOS

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    Yes thank you very much

    Yes KK and logic have full disk access but I have 3 hard drives including 2 external in usb C can this be a problem? Because I don't know how Full access works? If it gives access to all HDs?

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    and please would you confirm that this version works fine together :

    Mac OSX Ventura. 13.6.1 with the Komplete Kontrol version is 2.9.6. ?

    My Daw is logic Pro 10.7.9

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,343 mod

    It should be possible to do this with most instruments but it would be best to start with identifying one to establish a working methodology that can then be applied to the others. What NI strings are you using?

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    I use a lot of strings soft but for NI i use symphobia for ex

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,082 Expert

    You first need to confirm if that parameter is mapped as a control in KK. You say you use the mouse which must mean it is not appearing as a mapped parameter in the NKS template which it will need to appear if you wish to record automation.

    Open the control editor for the instrument, then unlock it then add a new page:

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    With the new page open, enable the "control learn" button which will now allow you to add additional controls to the template. Move the control you want to be able to access/automate

    image.png

    IF nothing is learned in the position when you move the control it would mean it is not enabled for Host Automation which means you cannot record the parameter or learn it into the template. This could be because in the plugin you need to "Enable Host Automation" for the parameter (common for Kontakt, Omnisphere, UVI for instance) or the control is not automatable via host automation, either it has to be done via MIDI or cannot be automated. Vibrato tho should be automatable on any decent instrument and if you cannot, i'd be contacting the developer of the plugin.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,343 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/213474#Comment_213474

    I don't have that but as well as what Jester suggested I would also check the automation tab in Kontakt, once something is added to that it can then be mapped using the method Jester suggested, and from there controlled using the KK knobs

  • Christ Millois
    Christ Millois Member Posts: 20 Member

    Hello

    I tried what you advised me on the KK editor and it works but when I go to the Kontakt, spitfire, omnisphere player it doesn't work... I don't know how to activate automation in kontakt etc.. thank you again for your help.

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