2025 Outlook: Maschine, Kontrol, and NKS Hardware Partnerships
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I’m looking into push 3 controller , I like that I could add standalone at a later date , I didn’t really get into ableton last time i tried , but I’d imagine it’s easier with the controller
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Hi @BIF
Please see my other post about whats next for KK (after the NKS HW integration) and how we plan work before the development work starts. What is posted here is official (confident to deliver), however we have lists of improvements looking into the future that myself and the Hardware Systems leadership team are constantly discussing and prioritise before bringing it to the community. The confidence comes from all of the additional development preparation work mentioned in the other post, so this constraint only allows us to share 1 quarter into the future to the community.
I still think that's a bit light on the information-sharing, but I can accept your answer.
For the Kontrol S-Series MK3 update, can you elaborate, or other power users reading this, please fill in your top 3 requests?
We've already had dozens of forum conversations over the last 18-24 months about all the stuff missing from KK MK3. This is probably one of the WORST things we have to deal with…the re-explaining of things that have already been talked to death.
I'm convinced that "corporate amnesia" is a thing. It's very frustrating for us to have to go through this every time there's a personnel change for Komplete Kontrol.
- @Matthew_NI can you share some of this with Chris? I know you've been in these related forum threads, so I know you probably have the list somewhere.
- Can somebody find the link to any of our prior conversations with @JesterMgee on missing features? I know there were at least a couple of active threads on all that, right here in the forum. Maybe they were had 8-10 months ago…or a year ago?
- Please see @Kymeia's post earlier in this thread. Copied here for your convenience, Chris.
…there may be other inputs, but items 1-3 above would be a great start for you, Chris.
I'm not preparing you for more radio silence, quite the opposite. I'm saying this to bring awareness to the silence since i took over from Matt in October 2024 (who was great at communication with the community), and i was onboarding onto new responsibilities which needed my full attention.
I'll give you some slack on that because Matt actually picked up a lot of that slack for all of us…from October until the holidays at the end of the year, so it felt (at least to me) that "lack of information" had not yet made itself obvious at least until Christmas.
Going forward, I will be much more present on the community space, answering as many questions as i can providing quarter updates like this.
Very good, I won't be alone when I say that I look forward to this.
Thanks for listening…and please don't let those lost features be forgotten. Because we won't.
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Subject - Year End Holiday Support
(Mods - Please feel free to break this post off into its own thread if you think that's appropriate)
Dear @Chris_NI:
There is another critical issue that comes up now at every year-end holiday period. This year's (2024 into 2025) was absolutely the worst.
The forum gets loaded down with support requests from new users, such as people who received as Christmas gifts Komplete, Komplete Kontrol, Maschine, or one of the other hardware solutions or partner libraries.
The NI suport team is gone for weeks starting around December 20th, and they're gone through Christmas, New Year's day, and Three King's day, and don't come back from break until after January 6th. This is a carryover from NI's days as a German company, and continues today in its US form.
Then the re-ramping up of people coming back from break is … too slow. Maybe due to people warming up, drying out, getting the kids back to school, or just plain figuring out how to wear shoes again, I don't know. Then there's also NAMM in January. And CES, and who knows what else.
Those of us here in the forum who are not NI team members, we do our best to help our fellow new users; even the new users who have no idea the difference between an audio track and a MIDI sequence. We are happy to help.
But we're not paid for that, and we end up being the shield that gets bloodied by angry customers when the support team doesn't respond (or doesn't respond promptly). Hey, we get it! It's complicated, having a Mac or PC with all this OS software, DAW software, Audio interface bits and bobs, and now the added complexity of having KK now with firmware that needs to be updated (and takes way too long on some computers/setups).
There were also a lot of web store problems. More than a fair number of people came to these forums because they had a problem making a purchase, purchasing the correct product or suite, getting Native Access to work, or just plain getting sound to come out of their new Komplete gift or purchase.
People get NI products as Christmas presents. And then when they have trouble downloading, installing, or using their purchases, they become frustrated. When no NI people respond to support tickets, that's when WE HERE IN THE FORUM have to spend valuable time to weed through the angry "I quit NI" verbiage just to get to a point where we can help our fellow users.
I'm here to suggest that as a business, it may be possible that Native Instruments may have to consider providing some support during the EOY holidays. Because in its current form, it's definitely not working for new users.
Much appreciation is owed to the good members of this forum for doing their best: People like our forum mods @PoorFellow, @PK The DJ, @mykejb, @DunedinDragon, @Uwe303, and @Sunborn, among many others. @Vocalpoint, and several others have also been working hard to provide help.
Copying a few others on this issue, so that they know about this conversation.
@Jeremy_NI (a big Thank You to Jeremy for looking into the forums at various times over the holidays…even during his time off.)
Thank you @Chris_NI, for your attention to this. And yes, I'm going to remind you of this topic as the US Thanksgiving holiday approaches in 2025, because this will not get better without some course of action.
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Thanks for the update.
When will easy integration with Cubase be addressed?
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You need to be clear on what you're asking here, easy integration between what and Cubase?
The Kontrol Mk3 hardware? Maschine hardware?
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…we are just expressing thoughts and opinions… and tastes… that's all. :-)
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Not to mention Stravinsky, Bartok, Reich etc
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please can you confirm that Kontrol Mk 3 and Komplete Kontrol now work with OS 15 Sequoia.
I work with video and music and have to update my Mac to OS 15 for FCP.
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Great to see the support for 3rd party controllers. As a newbie I would love to see the ability to either number the encoders in KK or be able to colour code them, then match those numbers/colours on the hardware controller. I'm always losing coordination between the two and having to count from left to right for the correct encoder - is it No. 5 or 6? or No. 7? !! esp when there's a gap between them on some banks.
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I'm using both with Sequoia here and haven't had any problems. I should add that they're not officially supported according to the Sequoia support page, but my personal experience is that they work fine.
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It would also be nice with a specific section of the community strictly for support questions, the rest of the community is drowned with these posts and then the other conversations get lost in the noise.
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Which took them 6-8 years to develop, test and release to the public.
A nice, no-marketing behind the scenes of product development, including some hints for a ‘soon’ future:
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It would also be nice with a specific section of the community strictly for support questions, the rest of the community is drowned with these posts and then the other conversations get lost in the noise.
This is already being being considered and is depending on the results of an evaluation.
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When can we expect macOS Sequoia (15) support for Komplete Kontrol (s mkII) and Maschine mikro? The support notes don't mention them at all.
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