Buying a used Maschine +

Hi there, do check on what are the included transfers (to you) of software, including sound packs and instruments. You would be needing them to use the Maschine+.

About your question (what to test):

First thing, install latest firmware (if not already installed), otherwise you will stumble across bugs and things that were present before and have been fixed (not too many, some are still there…)

The first problem some are still encountering is on very first step, that is connecting to their account (it’s done through WiFi on the device itself).

Another issue is with the SD card reading (specially if it’s not the original one provided by NI)

Some also have some freezings happening when turning the device on (once everything is set up)

Must be said that the majority doesn’t encounter this problems anymore, and that these are issues more related to connection to NI and what else, not to the physical device per se.

On that matter, I would check if the knobs feel “right”, or if some of them are loose (it;s one of the few points of failure in a device like this)

I would ask beforehand to the seller to confirm you she never had any of those problems.

Then, once (and if) you manage to instal everything, just USE it and USE it and USE it extensively for the first days/weeks, so that if something is wrong it will happens immediately and not after months.

About the price: with used devices, it all depends on how lucky you are. I bought mine used more than 2 years ago for practically the same price (well…even a little less) and I was in your same situation: the seller told me it was brand new and used less than 5 times. I of course asked for the receipt (to be sure he bought it 3 months before as he said). Once seen he was not lying, I trusted him (with 3 months’ life it was more probable the device had been used very few times) and also asked him to write a note, declaring that in case some major issues he didn’t mention would appear, I could return it.

I’ve been very lucky and everything he said corresponded to reality (yes, some honest people still exist in this world ☺️). But I made my moves anyway to be sure he would, in case, respond of anything going wrong.

Note also what DeepThumb told you: the price for a new M+ is not what is listed on NI site. Every other reseller has lower prices, so 630€ is not half price (it still puzzles me how NI can still list it at 1199 when EVERYBODY ELSE sell it for a lot less…it seems almost like they DON’T want to sell them directly…😶)

@LostInFoundation 1199 (was 1399) is still the recommended retail price. If dealers can afford to do without profit, they can sell at lower prices.

The manufacturers cannot sell at a lower price than the recommended retail price. AFAIK that would be illegal.

We’re talking about pricing regulations and profit margins. If the recommended retail price is at 800, the dealer price has to be around 40% lower coming in at around 450. At which NI would probably have to sell it below production cost.

But I‘m sure you don’t understand that either.

That’s exactly the point: If a manufacturer sells to the enduser at a lower price than the recommended price for dealers, the dealer might not be able to compete with that due to various factors (which might heavily depend on its local situation) thus potentially creating a monopoly for that market.

Also, competing with your product distribution network is counter productive.