Maschine 3.0 is that you?

Clubber70 · November 6

It is available now in my Native Access 2 !!! I can download it right now…

cal · November 6

Audio preview of midi! Im happy! Can we draw automation lines too?

Notanon · November 6

Yep, available for me now as well here in Australia.

bloodysnare · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188223#Comment_188223

aaand, no timestretching. Unbelievable.

D-One · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188338#Comment_188338

No, theres no updates to anything related to automation.

cal · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188432#Comment_188432

That is genuinely unbelievable. That was one of the main concerns and it has been for years, had a lot of votes when they did the survey too. I am genuinely baffled by this company, they did those (quite handy) midi upgrades and still dont provide a way to draw a line or copy automation? I cant even count the amount of times thats been asked for, I remember when you collated requests on the old forum and it was very high on the list way back then. I mean I know they said it was tricky when they wrote:

'So in order for us to record or write Scene, Pattern, Mute, Tempo, Lock State or Macro changes, we would require a “global” container format to store this information. And at the same time find ways to apply this without conflicting with the current usage paradigms. This includes determining what happens when a Pattern or Clip already has modulation or automation data that conflicts with the globally set values (once such were to exist).

The reason I am calling this out is because I want to be transparent that although this is the second most requested area for improvements, it is also one of, if not the most challenging feature area for us to tackle as it goes beyond and in part challenges what Maschine has been to this date. It is certainly possible, from a technical standpoint. But it comes at the cost of high and consistent efforts over a long period of time, and is currently not our main focus. '

My question is WHY is it not your main focus? You recognize in the paragraph that it is the second most requested feature, would it not be prudent to perhaps make it a focus if such a feature is so heavily favoured by the user base? Even if it takes time then you can still allow us to edit the modulation parameters in patterns easier, we have a pencil tool already so its not a stretch to make it draw a line surely?

Stems are handy but really, unless you a hip hop producer? Its entirely non essential, I dont get it. At all. Their selection process for upgrades is completely opaque and esoteric. Just seems to be unrelated to what gets asked for by the user base.

Glad of midi note preview I suppose, I could pay 30 note for that lol

cal · November 6

Yeah thats nuts too, no timestretch in sampler. That one is completely inexplicable given the technology already exists in the audio module. Thats another request thats been around from the dawn of time but hey, now we can go to other DAW users and say 'Yeah but we have note preview now!'.

I mean are Maschine devs aware of whats available these days in the most basic midi software? Im not trying to be facetious but this update adds stuff that you would just expect from even freeware Midi editing software, its not even technically features, its just standard editing tools that comes with all midi software, actually less because most midi software lets you edit and copy automation.

NI know this, they have to but they have just released a major iteration with the ability to…split notes? Bounce in place is nice but I cant think of any major software doesnt have that now and technically we already had it with the ability to drag out the audio anyway so its not like it was a vital feature, it was already there, they just streamlined it.

Trying not to be negative but a year wait for midi note preview and stem separation?

NI? Are you just drawing what gets upgraded out of a hat? Can we see the hat? Is it a nice hat at least?

ozon · November 6

@cal wrote

Bounce in place is nice but I cant think of any major software doesnt have that now and technically we already had it with the ability to drag out the audio anyway so its not like it was a vital feature, it was already there, they just streamlined it.

I wonder what you think of it after trying it on a real Project.

It doesn’t work at all as I would expect.

toekneehaze · November 6

Has anyone figured out how to bring back the User interface look of Maschine 2

I find the flat DARK new look quite terrible.

I cant believe the changed it all without even having the option of choosing the look and feel

I think I will just use MASCHINE 2.0 forever. they didnt even update automation drawing anyway.

cal · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188487#Comment_188487

Bounce in place doesnt work? Dragging audio and midi out of maschine has always worked for me, in fact dragging out audio onto another pad has always worked, its very handy but I wouldnt call streamlining it a new feature per se.

At the very least I acknowledge that NI do know they have done the bare minimum here by charging only 30 bucks. If this was a truly new iteration we would be looking at over 100 but noone would pay that for this. I have the iOS app Koala sampler with stem separation and that function was built in as an easter egg.This was in an app that cost me 5 bucks, I am not joking lol

Also if anyone has an ipad or iphone? Get Koala sampler, it is amazing and in many ways rivals Maschine or the SP404. Not joking. Has multiple time stretch algorithms for the sampler, stem separation, individual FX buses,export to Ableton,resample, EQ, performance FX and various slice modes. 5 bucks…

ozon · November 6

@cal asked

Bounce in place doesnt work?

It does work. But the way it works, I have no use for it. I wonder how it is for others.

D-One · November 6

Bounce in place is pretty much the same as audio drag-and-drop to another Pad, except it's the same Pad and deletes the MIDI, so… pros and cons.

ozon · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188510#Comment_188510

How do you get it to work for a single Sound without converting all Patterns in the Group?

cal · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188510#Comment_188510

Yeah its basically streamlining an existing feature, it hasnt added anything that wasnt possible before so they cant really claim it as a new feature. The whole thing is just a bit of a head scratcher. I dont want to seem uncharitable but this is a years worth of work? I mean if it was just one dude then fair enough I suppose lol

djadidai · November 6

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/188518#Comment_188518

audio drag drop to another pad I assume.

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