Looping in Sample Editing

PortableDJs · 2024-09-15T21:01:23+00:00

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Hello everyone

Although I have mixed and released several tracks using Maschine, I normally sample my portable grooveboxes and/or use short one-shots that I play and mix together.

I recently switched to Mk3 and tried sampling a loop, cutting it up properly so it would loop well, all from the MK3 screens.

Normally what I would do in software like Sound Forge or Audacity would be to load the raw recording, work with selection and zoom, loop the sample until it sounds good and then cut out what I don't need.

Here in Maschine there are PLAY RANGE (PR), SELECTION RANGE (SR) and LOOP, but I understand that only SR allows TRUNCATE but does not allow looping, while LOOP allows looping if the SAMPLE module is set right, but does not allow TRUNCATE.

Basically (with my current knowledge) in order to be able to work a loop and hear it at the same time in continuous loop I have to use both SR and LOOP, then do TRUNCATE?

I'm looking for a simple way to select the part I need while the playback is looping and then do the TRUNCATE, in the simplest way possible, can anyone help me?

Thanks in advance

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PortableDJs

Best workflow I got so far: just use Play Range first, when things sound promising I turn on Loop and fit its area manually into Play Range using the knobs. Obviously Sampler module has to be set into ADSR beforehand otherwise no looping while editing the sample (pad button must be kept down to have the sound cycling). Plus, noticed that if FOLLOW Grid button is turn on, screen 2 automatically focus on start point and end point as I turn those knobs up or down (i like that). Once I am happy with start point and end point I apply TRUNCATE.

It there anything better/sleeker than this?

Please share some of your wisdom

Paul Opp

You could use the audio engine for looping as well. Just a different approach.

PortableDJs

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/178056#Comment_178056

Tried this few hours ago, it works "as intended". At least I can quickly cut a Loop and then switch back to Sample module if I need to chop. Thanks

Lionzinio

It does seem a little irritating that you have to set the sample as ADSR in the individual sampler before the loop actually begins to loop in the Sample Edit window.

It would be awesome if activating/deactivating the loop functionality in the Sample Edit window or on the Maschine itself automatically toggled the Type value in the Sampler. Because why would I turn on the loop if I didn't want it to be active and why would I turn off the loop if I wanted it to continue looping?

D-One

@Lionzinio
It does seem a little irritating that you have to set the sample as ADSR in the individual sampler before the loop actually begins to loop in the Sample Edit window.

The Sampler would then loop forever and not know when to stop looping unless you stop all playback, this is how traditional Samplers work… Maschine's sampler is oldschool.

In this context, looping is generally only used to extend single notes of instruments and if thats the case it only makes sense to use Keyboard Mode, which in turn only makes sense to use ADSR.

Maschine has the Audio Plug while say MPC's have Clip Launch Mode, both dedicated specifically to triggering loops in a one-shot manner with quick ways to stop them…. The MPC way seems more intuitive, press a pad and it plays, loops and blinks, press again and it stops.

It would be awesome if activating/deactivating the loop functionality in the Sample Edit window or on the Maschine itself automatically toggled the Type value in the Sampler. Because why would I turn on the loop if I didn't want it to be active and why would I turn off the loop if I wanted it to continue looping?

Admittedly this is true, it would save you 1 or 2 button presses, the only downside I see is Samples can contain loop information built-in and it would be confusing to load those to then have them be set automatically to ADSR.

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