Non nks library have "missing samples" when loaded from the user presets K7

gamaliwa
gamaliwa Member Posts: 43 Member
edited October 2024 in Kontakt

Hello, those libraries load fine when manually loading from the classic left panel in K7.

But when I add them to my user content folder to be part of my user library, they doesn't load correctly. They keep asking me to point the location of the samples folder. It look for for it in the user content folder, which is obviously not where the samples folder is. The sample folder never moved, it's in the original location of the library but since we can't tag regular nki without saving them first to the user presets..;

Thanks

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  • hAMIKAZE
    hAMIKAZE Member Posts: 17 Member

    same issue, I just gave up on using the user presets view …

  • gamaliwa
    gamaliwa Member Posts: 43 Member

    When adding some libraries to my user presets, I manually copied the nki/nksn and the ogg files. The preview works fine, but when I double click to load them, many times I get the missing samples error. It wants some .ncw or .nkr files and it looks for them in my user content folder or Documents folder, which doesn't contain them obviously because those are located in the original location of the library.

    How to deal with this when adding user presets ? They load just fine from the regular kontakt view, they also load fine from the K7 browser with the "non-user view". But from the user presets view I get this error

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,857 mod
    edited August 2024

    Were these user presets saved using Komplete Kontrol file menu or are they using one of the Kontakt internal preset mechanisms?

    If saved by KK or using snapshots (which amounts to the same thing) both those mechanisms are not good at retaining paths if on a different computer or samples have been moved after the user file was made - have either of those things happened?

  • gamaliwa
    gamaliwa Member Posts: 43 Member
    edited August 2024

    Same Computer.

    No samples moved.

    The user presets were not saved using KK.

    I manually copied the nki files and nksn files to Documents→NI→User Content

    Because I want to add thousands of patches to my user library, I can't do it one by one using kk

    I tried adding a user preset using KK and yes it works fine. I don't get why. Some librairies just want to find those .ncw files or .nkr when manually copying nki and nksn to user content

    Funny enough, some libraries works just fine with this method, but many others don't load and require saving inside KK… surely there is a workaround ?

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,857 mod
    edited August 2024

    I manually copied the nki files and nksn files to Documents→NI→User Content

    OK that's the cause - it seems some Kontakt snapshots are more finicky about paths than others. I have reported this myself - this goes back years. Not sure why snapshots have to use fixed rather than relative paths and why it is very hit and miss other they work or not. I have some that I moved from a previous computer that still work fine and yet others in third party libraries do not

  • gamaliwa
    gamaliwa Member Posts: 43 Member

    quite sad.

    I am deleting my whole user presets and re building from scratch. I'll only put libraries that don't use weird .nkx or .ncw samples and that don't go missing samples for no reason

  • hAMIKAZE
    hAMIKAZE Member Posts: 17 Member
    edited August 2024

    That's just terrible that managing the user library is not more user friendly … terrible

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,857 mod
    edited August 2024

    It works fine for anything that isn't Kontakt. imho Kontakt just has poor integration with KK and always has when it comes to user and third party content that is not NKS. However at least we can now use it outside Komplete Kontrol

  • hAMIKAZE
    hAMIKAZE Member Posts: 17 Member
    edited August 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/175158#Comment_175158

    I tried what op is trying to do but with KK

    you can't add multiple patches to the user library at once. If you try to manually copy paste the nki to the user content, KK load the patch into a black screen with no pop-up missing samples like in k7

    it works fine for well integrated nks libraries such as heavyocity

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