using stems generated in TP4 in TP3

denverhousedj
denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member
edited October 22 in Traktor Software & Hardware

So TP4 is still buggy with the remix decks. (clip launching, sample size/speed w/ F1)

I am generating stems and using the loop recorder to record isolated samples for use in the remix decks.

I can use TP4 for set prep, but until remix decks bugs are addressed, want to perform with TP3.

Is there anyway to use the stems i generate in TP4 in TP3 as it is (more) stable (less buggy) for performing and I would like to be able to use stems as well?

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  • Allan_NI
    Allan_NI Product Team Posts: 86 mod
    edited July 30 Answer ✓

    This will not work as the stem metadata in Pro 4 is not the same as Pro 3

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  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,488 Expert

    Sure, it's just that the stem files don't have any meta data. But technically you can play them.

    Probably better to use a 3rd party stem generator in that case.

  • denverhousedj
    denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member

    How can I play them? I see the stem folders with a (m4u?, not in front of the computer) file, but can't load it as stem, only loads as full track

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,488 Expert

    I never used stems on tp3. But they should behave has regular stem files as far as I'm aware. Was the deck type set to stem?

  • denverhousedj
    denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member

    Yes, but when I tried to load a stem, it only loaded single full track

  • Allan_NI
    Allan_NI Product Team Posts: 86 mod
    edited July 30 Answer ✓

    This will not work as the stem metadata in Pro 4 is not the same as Pro 3

  • denverhousedj
    denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member

    Thanks Allan, I guess I will have to choose between Using Pro3 if I want to use Remix Decks or using Pro 4 if I want to use (Traktor generated) stems. That is unfortunate.

  • Allan_NI
    Allan_NI Product Team Posts: 86 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/169172#Comment_169172

    Could you give me more details on the issues you are having with the remix decks?

  • denverhousedj
    denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member

    Sure,

    The sample launch is buggy, when click on (or on F1 push) play\sample trigger, sample will not play, have to stop sample, then re-trigger (usually will work). Sometimes triggering a different sample in the same channel, then triggering the original will also work.

    Sample speed\size is not functional from F1 (works in Pro 3) speed adjustment works from GUI (but glitchy as well). Also the sample size will randomly change (ie. from 32 beat to 16, or 16 to 8, but not perfectly and throws off timing) and will have to drag sample to different channel and then back to correct.

  • Martiniix_NI
    Martiniix_NI Customer Care Posts: 347 mod

    Any Update? @Allan_NI @denverhousedj

  • denverhousedj
    denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member

    @ Martiniix_NI

    not yet

  • Martiniix_NI
    Martiniix_NI Customer Care Posts: 347 mod

    Have you contacted our support team? I think there is currently an investigation about this issue.

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  • denverhousedj
    denverhousedj Member Posts: 22 Member

    BTW, I am able to open TP4 stems in audacity, can do what you want from there, pull vocals, save all stems as separate files then use stem creator to "make" a stem usable in TP3. Don't know what your opening unless you know what date/time you generated stems at, so have to search if looking for a stem you have already generated days ago.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,050 Expert

    I do not understand why NI made STEMs generated by TP4 incompatible with those for TP3….

    Or does TP4 version use e.g. flac? As Apple loosless does not work on Win for years…. And old STEMs did not provide other loosless format.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,488 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/171960#Comment_171960

    Or does TP4 version use e.g. flac? 

    Nope. Lossy AAC I think.

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