NI Komplete Kontrol S88 MK3 ableton MIDI Indicator echoing

Ronvak
Ronvak Member Posts: 16 Member
edited October 22 in Komplete Kontrol

Hi

i own S88 MK3 , recently i've noticed that when i press one note in the keyboard , the ableton midi indicator is echoing for a few seconds.

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i have also push 2 , it doesn't happening there

, is there any solution for this ? or is it a normal behavior ?

this is my midi settings in ableton:

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using Windows 11

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  • Ronvak
    Ronvak Member Posts: 16 Member
    edited July 25
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    the gif deleted, couldn't find the editing button in this forum..

    the editing button is blank component when i click on it:

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  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 948 Guru

    Your configuration looks pretty much the same as mine with the exception of the Remote being checked. I don't know if that comes into the problem or not. I have a Remote checked but that's for a special program that runs in the background so at the end of a track it loops a Stop command to Ableton. But that's only used in live performances. In my case the first control surface is my S88 and the second one is for my S49.

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  • Ronvak
    Ronvak Member Posts: 16 Member

    the remote is used to control the host(ableton) from the keyboard , play , stop , etc ..

    when i turn it off it won't control the ableton, does this controls works for you when the remote is off?

  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,402 mod

    Perhaps you are seeing polyphonic aftertouch data come in?

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,929 Expert

    Your MIDI settings are correct. Question would be, are you seeing an actual issue or just curious what is happening because there are AT and MPE signals that can be transmitted along with note data. Requests have been made over the years to allow these to be disabled as options in the keyboard settings for those that don't want this data recorded, still do not believe this is an option

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/168073#Comment_168073

    Just an FYI, the DAW input should not be set for any MIDI input in Ableton, it is a control port for control device slots, not a MIDI device:

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    Also, remote for the MIDI input should be enabled if you want to use the encoders of the keyboard in MIDI mode of the keyboard for midi control of anything in Live. Not something you would have been interested in with the MK3 yet as it lacks the MIDI templates but useful otherwise so copy the OP's settings because he has them correct.

  • Ronvak
    Ronvak Member Posts: 16 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/168575#Comment_168575

    i've turned off the polyphonic aftertouch inside the keyboard encoder, still echoing.. did you meant this setting ? or is there anything else?

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  • Ronvak
    Ronvak Member Posts: 16 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/168614#Comment_168614

    i am both curious and also seeing this as a problem while there's a lot of midi tracks playing the same time it's seems like the cpu is higher , the midi command are system interrupts , it causing high cpu usage from what i've been monitoring

    for the remote, i do use the encoder of the keyboard to control live, i think the template is fine… can't see any problem so far with the midi mapping

    i've also disabled the AT in the keyboard settings (see image below i've replayed to @Matthew_NI) , still the issue remains

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 12,402 mod

    @Ronvak This is how the keyboard should be set in Ableton:

    This setup requires Live 11.3.11 and Komplete Kontrol software 3.0.

    1. Connect your Kontrol MK3 keyboard to your computer and switch it on.
    2. Start Ableton Live and go to Preferences > Link MIDI.
    3. Assign a free Control Surface slot to Komplete Kontrol S Mk3.
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    4. Select KONTROL S MK3 (Port2) under Input and Output.
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    Your Kontrol MK3 is now set up for host integration in Ableton Live.

    Taken from that article: How to Integrate Your Kontrol Keyboard with Your DAW

    Once this is done there is no need to check the remote box, please untick it:

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    What have you chosen as MIDI inputs and outputs in Komplete Kontrol in standalone?

  • Ronvak
    Ronvak Member Posts: 16 Member
    edited August 10
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/169150#Comment_169150

    Hi jeremy

    i've change to those settings , didn't worked.

    this is what was set in the midi komplete kontrol standalone settings:

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    also just updated to 1.7.6 FW , still the same issue

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 948 Guru
    edited August 10
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/171615#Comment_171615

    Here are the settings I have in Komplete Kontrol preferences and my S88MK3 is working perfectly with my Ableton Live with host integration using 1.7.6 FW.

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    I'm not sure the Host Integration communications goes through Komplete Kontrol because MK3 DAW controls work fine in Kontakt 7 as well as directly with Ableton Live with a blank project.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 12,402 mod

    @Ronvak Do you still need help on this? We might need to look deeper in your system, let me know and I'll create a request for you.

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