Maschine (still?) Not Copying Sustain Pedal Messages with MIDI Notes

Dean Papoutsis · 2022-03-16T22:34:29+00:00

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RE: Maschine Studio / Software 2.14.7 / Apple M1 Mac Mini / Yamaha MX88 Synth Keyboard

As a novice piano player, I am making some mistakes as I try to record my piano "performances" which include sustain pedal data. The Maschine Sampler feature records them perfectly and they play back perfectly. Yet when I need to cut only a "good" portion out of my pattern (from a mix of good and bad ones), to the beginning of a new track, I have issues.

The software allows me to copy the MIDI notes correctly, however:

A. It does not paste ANY sustain pedal data, or

B. If I get a copy and paste to transfer the sustain pedal data, it is incorrect (values are less than 64, while during the actual performance they were from 1-127.)

I've read a couple similar posts, one from MCarl, Jun 20, 2012 and another from will4laptop, Nov, 2015--if I understand both, they did not seem to find satisfactory solutions.

Any suggestions on how to copy and paste a "good" part of a pattern to another location with the correct sustain pedal data?

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bycsounds

Were you able to get an answer?

I too have notice the same problem

Kaldosh

same goes for automation curves when copying events unfortunately I hope this gets fixed one day along with all long requested features

Goldie B

Not sure if this applies in this case, but may be useful. But first question: are you pushing the sustain pedal down and holding it the whole time you’re recording? Or pushing it in and letting go many times in the recording?

If only once, it may be that the pedal down message is only at the start of the track, and the pedal up message at the end. If you were to cut something out of the middle, in this scenario, it might not include the original ‘pedal on’ message. From what I remember, it doesn’t keep recording it throughout a performance (like continuous controllers do) - it just takes a note of when you push it down, and when you lift it up - a then effectively draws a line between them. So if the ‘clip’ you’re taking doesn’t contain the note on message, it won’t know to start applying sustain on playback.

If you think you may have used sustain on AND off, all within your extract/clip - then it may be another problem (I remember one of the NI guys posting last week about a need for ‘containers’ to add certain kinds of functionality, so could be related to this, too - search the forum for Kai or Jeremy taking about containers.

It could also be something entirely different, and apologies if you already know about the on/off start and end message thing - just answering on phone in case it’s helpful :)

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