How much longer for MIDI Templates?

laserbeak
laserbeak Member Posts: 170 Helper
edited October 22 in Komplete Kontrol

Hi,

Any updates on MIDI Templates?

Any news at all would be appreciated. I know it's likely I've missed something, somewhere.

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  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 4,894 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/29646/how-much-longer-for-midi-templates

    I know it's likely I've missed something, somewhere.

    No , probably not. Latest news from Matthew_NI on that as far as I know still is that the team is focusing all strength into getting MIDI Templates and Play Assist finished :

    Quote Matthew_NI April 2 : We decided last week... <Snip>... to focus all strength on MIDI Templates and Play Assist,

  • Beatsandmore
    Beatsandmore Member Posts: 141 Advisor

    I know they are testing but they should just put out any update.. there will always be bugs from all updates.. addressing needs for mk3 hardware is a must with tho like myself bought day one.. so far I'm extremely disappointed 😞

  • Keith Cocker
    Keith Cocker Member Posts: 130 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/151556#Comment_151556

    And you will be even more disappointed if "any update" comes with problems that could have been caught! I'm happy to wait.

  • MorrisEd
    MorrisEd Member Posts: 159 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/151536#Comment_151536

    Yes, they punted the also long overdue accessibility features to focus on midi templates. Why do you think they had to do this? It’s probably not because things are going well imo. In other words, don’t hold your breath for a release. Projects only get delayed for a handful of reasons and none are good reasons.

  • laserbeak
    laserbeak Member Posts: 170 Helper
    edited May 5

    Last update being on April 2nd is better than March 2nd. I'll take it (monthly update or something would be nice).

  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 4,894 mod
    edited May 6

    Just in : Quote Matthew_NI , May 6th , 2024

    At ´Duffcat , I had posted elsewhere - we paused Accessibility to focus fully on MIDI Templates, so that we could get it out ASAP. It's pretty much the one team's only focus in May and would hopefully land in beta in that time also.

  • laserbeak
    laserbeak Member Posts: 170 Helper

    I almost want to apply for a part-time job here to give NI a hand.

    Thanks for sharing, @PoorFellow

  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 4,894 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/151900#Comment_151900

    I almost want to apply for a part-time job here to give NI a hand.

    Me too , I would like to be a sidekick to either Hayo_NI or Matthew_NI , but alas people like them don't want or have the time to have poorly educated poor folks like me as sidekicks , so all I could hope for would be to maybe get hired as waterboy 🤣

  • Richard Vetro
    Richard Vetro Member Posts: 20 Member

    Not to worry, problem will be solved at the release of Kontrol MK4.

    In the mean time we all just need to find alternative solutions.

    I have an actual midi controller set up to control Cubase. It's called a Nektar P1. It does 1 job Midi Control.

    It's ten years old… and works 100% better the the MK3 as a midi/Daw controller.

    Once NI fixes the issue, then I will remove it.

    Nektar saves the day again.

  • laserbeak
    laserbeak Member Posts: 170 Helper

    Looks like MIDI Templates will add channel selection. That will be SOOOO useful. It would definitely minimize the size of my orchestral templates.

  • Orfu2003
    Orfu2003 Member Posts: 7 Member

    I love my MK3, but i regret selling my (far more basic) Arturia Essentials which ran all my hardware synths without issue. Rightly, the focus is on integration with existing and future NI VST, but for the flagship MIDI controller to not have the ability to create templates for hardware synths is baffling. The explanation that is was an under used feature is equally baffling. Perhaps I have a skewed perception of how many people use HW synths, but I would have thought anyone putting out this much cash for a MIDI controller is also burning cash on other hardware? Looking forward to MIDI templates "soon"?

  • MorrisEd
    MorrisEd Member Posts: 159 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/154935#Comment_154935

    No, you don’t have a skewed perception. I believe it was just a lie to begin with, but I am sure that will ruffle the feathers of all the people who seem to be defending this half finished product. I am highly skeptical NI will deliver any midi functionality that matches expectations. It has taken them so long, and they keep punting the date. It suggests to me that there may be larger issues standing in the way.

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 971 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/154935#Comment_154935

    I think the development priorities appeared to be better integration and stability pieces right now and that caused them to slip dates from what I understand. I own both a S88 MK3 and a S49 MK2, but I've never used templates myself, so I guess I can understand why it wasn't prioritized for first release if there are others like myself. All of my most used features are there in this release of the MK3, but I realize I may not be indicative of general use.

    I do appreciate your professionalism in how you responded though. I see this as early days of the MK3 just like it was early days for my Helix Floor unit when I bought it back in 2015. Both the MK3 and the Helix share a lot in common in that the units are both intelligent and programmable, and that's lead to remarkable things in my Helix as I expect to see from the MK3 over the next year or so and beyond.

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 674 Guru
    edited May 20

    I’d be happy with single existing template if it was at least partially editable, for example being able to change encoder action from fixed values to relative values (inc/dec).

    Unless one only uses Kontakt/KK or only needs to control cutoff and resonance on non-NI virtual instruments. Then it’s fine as it is.

    Templates are coming, the controller is usable, and as they say - patience is a virtue 😉

  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,454 mod

    Shipped, as of yesterday.

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