Reaktor 6: poor performance under Apple Silicon

And fwiw, on macOS' activity monitor, there's no overloads happening. It's just inside Reaktor (and Logic, but we can keep that aside as it's also happening in Reaktor/standalone).

So, it seems as if Reaktor simply can't deal with the CPU power available.

Fwiw, not directly related but still related to the general way NI is working these days: I have just been checking out some libraries requiring Kontakt 7. Had to use the Player but that shouldn't matter.

Now, what could I possibly say? What a pathetic joke is this? I have not ONE single other plugin with such a horribly sluggish UI. In standalone mode, once you have and instrument loaded, when you enter preferences, clicking on the entries takes some seconds (!) for the click to register.

I absolutely can't believe that. I mean, it's their friggin' flagship product, if there ever was one. And it's performing as if I was on a computer from the mid nineties.

Absolutely not wondering about the Reaktor drama anymore. This company has completely lost it.

And yet another really strange thing (sorry it's again about Kontakt, but all this is more about general NI "tactics" anyway, so we can as well keep it in this thread):

When I initially installed the K7 Player, it installed version 10. Which was as ****** as it gets.

The alternate version I posted about above was 4.2. Which was working pretty fine (but not loading the "Hypha" library).

But obviously, Native Access now told me there was an update after finding V4.2. But that update was NOT V10 but V9, go figure! So I backed up V10 and V4.2 and performed the update. And guess what? While still a little slower than K6, at least once the libraries are loaded, everything is quite solid and fast.

So, bottomline: Apparently NI realized that V10 was rubbish and pulled it (NA doesn't show any update options anymore, now that I'm on V9). They're obviously not offering a "downgrade" option, which is bad.

But at least I feel confirmed now. I have been told that Macs are s***. I have been told my machine was under-spec'ed (muahaha). I have been told I was doing something wrong, I had no clue and what not (just as happened in this thread as well). Turns out neither was the case. At least K7P V10 was a t**d, yet it was released (at least for a while). Every bit the same with the latest Reaktor version (just that unfortunately there's no proper way to revert to an older version).

Edit: Whoops, I've just seen this is a known issue. So why don't they just notify their users?

Hi Jeremy,

"What kind of M3 processor is it?"

"Plain" M3 (Macbook Air - they only come with that).

"Sonoma 14.4.1? "

Yes.

"In what DAW is this happening? Is it also happening in standalone?"

Logic, Garageband, Reaper, standalone (the video 1-2 pages back is made with the standalone version).

"I know you really really want to have a 32 samples buffer size but we've
seen cases where a higher buffer size would actually improve the
performance"

I'm into this for long enough to know that larger buffer sizes improve performance. But I don't want to keep flipping my settings just to run 2-3 Reaktor ensembles. With anything else (and now even with K7P) it's set and forget. Has been like that since ages under Logic, one of the reasons I still quite like it.

"I understand that it can be frustrating to get a brand new computer and experiencing lower performance than your old mac"

The thing is, I'm experiencing fantastic performance. It's really just Reaktor completely crapping out.

"These M3 macs are pretty new, the and M2 M3 Max, Pro and Ultra combined
with the 14.4.1 Sonoma update brought a lot of issues, especially with
Kontakt 7, as you can see here: Kontakt 7 window across multiple screens causing Kernel panic shutoff on Mac Studio! (KT-8785)"

That's all fine and dandy - but how comes I haven't experienced any issues with any other plugin so far? Not even with ones still running in Rosetta mode?

"Of course we can continue the conversation here but if you're not at ease with responses from other users"

I'm totally cool. But that doesn't mean I will silently accept being called clueless and what not. When in the end it's sometimes even just that people don't even bother to read properly.

"Please keep it civil and respectful there as well."

I'll try my best.

"Of course it may be split to several threads"

Sure. But that would add latency.

"If you do not want to do the test with e-cores off, your decision."

I did. Everything the same.

So, how comes no plugin is already doing it?