Does anyone have problems getting consistent playback with Session Guitarist/Strummed Acoustic?

If you look just above your last post you'll see a screenshot of the pattern maker. That's the tool they give you to create or modify patterns. I personally haven't played with it that much but it seems fairly thorough.

@jimchik you have to have the melody instruments for that. The pattern based ones don't allow for that. However there really is more to these instruments than meets the eye and there are things you can do as work arounds.

@Uwe303 Yes absolutely, it is a limitation not to have an option to have the "stop immediatley" feature for when you do want that. I spent some more time with the guitars. Don't know what you guys have, but just for clarity, I have 4 of them in K13 UCE. . Strummed Accoustic, Strummed Accoustic2, Picked Accoustic and Electric Sunburst delux.

Strummed Accoustic is the only one you can choose to stop instantly via that panel of options. The best the others can do 1/8th. Note: that is when Picked Accoustic and ESBde are using their pattern modes. Of course the melody mode doesn't apply here. If you use the keyswitch to stop immediately its limited in that you are stuck with it sounding the last note you pressed for your chord sequence.

I went and tried to replicate what you said about the auto chords allowing you to stop immediately. I wasn't able to achieve this on those other 3 instruments at all. If I set strummed Accoustic to stop at 1/8 then activated auto chords it didn't stop immediately. There is a case to be made as I think you already said, it depends when actual notes are playing so I made sure I chose a preset that was reasonably busy when I did a key off.

As you've mentioned, its one of my favourite tricks to shorten the phrases AND double them - especially great for variation on an otherwise slow song for incidentals and I do this a lot. I think this one method goes a long way to improve the realism.

What I'd like to see improved is 1/ a finer stop time (1/16th) as well as stop immediately, and 2/ some of the patterns wont play below a certain tempo. I find that pretty limiting. Theres a bit of inconsistency too if I double the project tempo and 1/2 the speed in the pattern. In one case I was able to achieve a lower tempo by just leaaving the pattern tempo at 1.1 and slow the project tempo right down.

I forgot to mention theres one little glitch that happens from time to time. When I stop the transport, depending when I do that, a guitar pattern can just keep playing infinitely until I start the transport again! lol, I use it as an opportunity to freewheel and play other stuff with it. Sometimes I actually find it quite inspiring as weird as that may sound.

So this link I gave from the 'best answer' in this thread didn't cover your first problem?

"If you do change patterns over the course of the song you have to remember there's only one pattern in use at a time. If you have a pattern set later in the track and then reposition the playback to a section that's earlier, you'll still have the same pattern set from the previous section. Again the fix for this is to apply the pattern note across the entire span of where that pattern will be played" @DunedinDragon

My guess is when you go back to start, the keyswitch is placed slightly before the start of the bar, and therefore plays the last active pattern/keyswitch.

Also, 'VST Expressions' work great for this because they assure the articulation/keyswitch is the one that is active no matter where you place the play head.

The question was originally posted here... 😊

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/11476/session-guitar-problems#latest