What's your clips workflow?

You aren't wrong to say that they aren't hard... but it was not necessary to force people to use them. That is my main issue. NI is defaulting to Clips, trying to make people embrace it, but its having the opposite effect. I personally hate Clips and do just fine with using Patterns. I've also been using Maschine since 2011, so I have a lot to "undo" with my process and workflow if I want to make the switch, which I really don't.

What NI should do (which we know they won't - remember, been using Maschine since 2011) is make it an option. Or minimally, when I pin "Patterns", don't undo it and revert back to Clips. That is what is the most annoying right now.

i broke my mpc and got a maschine in the meantime due to the repair time involved on the mpc. clips are my absolute favorite feature! it was the number one workflow killer on the mpc to figure out how to manage edits without duplicating a bunch of patterns. its all perspective!

Here's my issue with clips:

If I'm using maschine on my computer for some reason, the first several groups are always for auxiliary uses. Effect sends, routing, etc. My instruments generally start on E1 if I'm routing out to my DAW; else A2 (i.e. I'm not this close to the top of the screen when adding stuff in song mode)

I'm in scene 1. I want a new pattern. Double click and I get a pattern as expected.

I go to double click in scene 3 and it creates a clip. I didn't do anything to switch into 'clip mode'. Right click does the same thing. I didn't try to switch modes.

That extra click doesn't seem like much; but we're talking about a decade of muscle memory thrown away for what? A function I'm not trying to use?

This is just a mouse behavior. If I hit record and started playing when it got to Scene 3; it would make a pattern as expected. The hardware will only switch me out of a mode if I press the buttons to switch. Logical behavior.

It would be ignorant to think people are complaining because they find clips 'confusing'. It's a poor implementation of a feature.

I'm going to create a new section, right click and create. What will it create?

You can guess because you can see my extra mouse click. The only visual is down in the piano roll. There's nothing in the area you're actually looking at that indicates what you're going to get when you hit 'create'. I'm not someone that focuses on UI/UX. "Make your app pretty because that's the most important thing!" This is just poor design.

Simple solution: Scene focus follows mouse clicks. This is the same logic as groups. I didn't have to go activate a group in order to create a pattern/clip. Never pull me out of a mode I chose.

Didn’t know that because I’m almost exclusively using the hardware.

This behavior looks odd and unintentional to me.

Have you filed a bug report?

I am not sure if this is ever going to materialize but, here’s my thought, I think it will be great if NI merges both patterns and clips and make a hybrid of this, like have some sort of toggle which indicates whether a given pattern should repeat in the scene (current pattern behavior) or not repeat (current clip behavior). And another toggle which indicates whether a given pattern is grid locked(current pattern behavior) or free from so the pattern can span across scenes(clip behavior). I think with just these two toggle the workflow can be much smoother and less confusing.

I honestly don't use it because I have templates built that make pattern mode simple and easy to use for me. I find pattern mode to be simple when working from the template and I only arrange after I have created all the instruments /patterns I need .I'm in standalone mode most of the time. When in controller mode I use maschine inside of Studio 1 and just export my patterns to audio, then all arrangement is done in S1.

I need to learn clips but lol I am also a creature of habit