MWM Phase Traktor HID

myalteredsoul
myalteredsoul Member Posts: 233 Advisor
edited October 22 in Traktor Software & Hardware

Now that MWM has sent NI what they need to implement HID for Phase, how long do you think it will be before it is implemented?

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  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,935 Expert

    Atomix have already added it for VirtualDJ.

  • Scratch-E Con
    Scratch-E Con Member Posts: 102 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/18992/mwm-phase-traktor-hid

    If NI wants to show a sign of good faith: the next Beta

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,589 Expert

    What did Phase do?

    From searching around I found this blogpost but they seems they removed it again:

    https://www.phasedj.com/post/phase-from-a-side-project-to-a-dj-industry-standard

  • myalteredsoul
    myalteredsoul Member Posts: 233 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/110086#Comment_110086

    Today’s firmware update opens up Phase HID to all DJ software.


    Per MWM, they have already reached out to NI, Algoriddim, VDJ, and Pioneer (VDJ already put their implementation in beta).

  • LucidSFX
    LucidSFX Member Posts: 3 Member

    Agreed. I had contacted Phase MWM and they confirmed communication with NI but it is up to NI to implement. Sounds like a no brainer.

    Phase mentioned that their Phase Manager release was taken down due to bugs but they plan to re-release it soon. I figured as much. Initial emails to me where saying that it was a "soft launch" but that is not the case.

    Algoryddem's DJay already implemented the integration (felt like same day). I am committed though to NI having bought Maschine+, X1 MK3, and been a long time Traktor user since v1. The main reason I use Traktor is for DVS, and library management (became a fan because of Midi flexibility). I use mostly outboard gear and spin off turn tables. I do not use the FX much, or care for step sequencing, stems, since I have Maschine+ as my 3rd deck.

    Integration with PHASE MWM would be a beautiful step forward and a priority to get the hardcore turntablists back. After which, I would hope that they would replace Ableton Link with a new integration to Maschine+ to avoid relying on a master tempo (boo!). Finally develop a hybrid turntable (like Pioneer just did)...would be killer!

    I realise I go way ahead of myself in the thread. We can only hope that NI takes this update seriously.

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited December 2023

    We Traktor users will definitely not be the next ones to benefit from this. I assume that we will be last or that it will even not happen at all. If you look at the pace of development steps based on the roadmap (which is no longer even updated), then this would not be expected until next summer at the earliest. (Of course, I would be so happy if I was wrong and it happened sooner, but I really don't think so).

    Btw. I shouldn't wait and had to force myself to do the firmware update to 8.0 so that I can try out VirtualDJ with Phase in HID. Turned out to be a huge mistake. The sticker drift on Traktor is now much worse than before and Phase keeps recalibrating itself while playing, which leads to signal loss. They are now absolutely useless to me and I have to wait until they offers a solution or a new firmware update comes out.

  • LucidSFX
    LucidSFX Member Posts: 3 Member

    Firmware 9 for phase is out now. MWM support confirmed NI has the info to integrate HID with Phase. We shall see....

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited March 13

    The last update for the MWM Phase Manager and firmware 8.0 was a total disaster. Also the lack of support to find a quick and reliable solution for a hot fix or something like that. I would recommend every Traktor user to wait a few days and see, if it's going well this time with the upgrade to firmware 9.0!

    Note: if anyone is still on 7.0 and everything runs fine, don't upgrade or wait a few days to run 9.0

  • Scratch-E Con
    Scratch-E Con Member Posts: 102 Advisor

    I read about it but I never had any problems with the 8.0 firmware. Apparently the 9.0 should be even better. Phase really is the most amazing product I have seen in a long time.

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru

    The release notes are a bit sparse. Unfortunately, it is not entirely clear whether an improvement has been achieved with the DVS signal. I assume that you also use Phase with Serato and then play in wireless mode? I notice a difference to Traktor here in terms of latency and sticker drift. HID (WIR) integration in Serato is way ahead compared to Traktor and DVS mode with firmware 7.0

  • Sami de Sousa
    Sami de Sousa Member Posts: 20 Helper
    edited May 17

    Is this on your roadmap? Even if there aren't many people asking for it on this forum, I'm sure plenty of Traktor DJs are using Phase. Please implement HID for Phase.

  • SteffRenz
    SteffRenz Member Posts: 7 Newcomer

    "Even if there aren't many people asking for it on this forum, I'm sure plenty of Traktor DJs are using Phase. Please implement HID for Phase."

    + 1 !!!

  • Kevin Becher
    Kevin Becher Member Posts: 3 Member

    HID support for Phase would be awesome!

  • Kevin Becher
    Kevin Becher Member Posts: 3 Member
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    Today's newsletter from Phase :)

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