define key_lo, key_hi MIDI range

Hi everyone! I want to specify different MIDI ranges per group, but when I switched to Group 3, I could not trigger a sample below 60, whereas I've listed it as 57. I've figured out that Group 0 defines the MIDI range, but even with a note in_range callback, I can still trigger a note outside of the specified range.

I imagine these are two different issues, but I figured they were connected.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this?

declare %ks_list[$NUM_SOUNDS] := (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
        declare %key_lo[$NUM_SOUNDS] := (60, 62, 60, 57, 60, 57, 59)
        declare %key_hi[$NUM_SOUNDS] := (97, 79, 79, 74, 77, 67, 66)

 if (not in_range($EVENT_NOTE, %key_lo[$sel_ks], %key_hi[$sel_ks]))
            ignore_event($EVENT_ID)
            exit
        end if

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EvilDragon

In KSP, groups are ordered 0-based, so group 1 is 0, group 2 is 1, group 3 is 2, so it seems this might be tripping you up - what is being read from your $sel_ks is third entry in %key_lo/hi arrays, rather than fourth.

composer808

Yes, thanks! Sorry, for the sake of being clear, I had referred to it improperly. I want Group 4 MIDI parameters from 57 - 74, Group 6 from 57 - 67, and Group 7 from 59 - 66.

However, these groups (4, 6, 7) cannot play below 60.

But when I change the key_lo of Group 0 to 57, Groups 4, 6, and 7 can also start at 57.

I should mention that the key-colored range works correctly, but the MIDI range doesn't correspond.

Thanks for double-checking with me!

I had thought the issue might be in this "on persistance_changed"...

 on persistence_changed
        call ButtonCB()
        call KeyColor()
		play_note (0,127,0,0)
    end on

EvilDragon

Why are you doing that play_note()? If you're doing your own keyswitching that is entirely unnecessary (my assumption being that you're trying to set the default keyswitch this way - but doing it like that would undo whichever keyswitch you have previously selected and stored into $sel_ks)...

That said, I cannot see anything wrong with that code - if keycoloring works as it should and groups don't play properly, the only thing that is left is to check if the groups are actually mapped properly within those designated ranges.

composer808

but doing it like that would undo whichever keyswitch you have previously selected and stored into $sel_ks)...

Yes, exactly my reasoning! I figured this as well, and I've taken that out now, but no change.

to check if the groups are actually mapped properly within those designated ranges.

Understood. Thanks for checking! I've double-checked that now, and everything is OK.

I've confirmed that Group 0 defines the MIDI trigger parameters for all groups, and the key_lo, key_hi, only defines the key color range. So my intuition is that it's this bit here, and group 0 is "Normal".

while ($i < $NUM_BUTTONS)
            %ID[$i] := get_ui_id($Normal) + $i
            inc($i)
        end while

EvilDragon

Hmmm that is unrelated to what you posted in the first post. It's just gathering UI IDs for your articulation buttons. Are those buttons declared sequentially (one after another, with no other variable declarations in between)?

composer808

...It's just gathering UI IDs for your articulation buttons. Are those buttons declared sequentially (one after another, with no other variable declarations in between)?

OK, I wondered if they were connected and didn't necessarily think they were. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

Yes, and to confirm that I've done it properly.

declare const $NUM_BUTTONS := 7
      declare const $NUM_SOUNDS := 7
	  declare const $Norm_Group_0 := 0
      declare const $PedalTone_Group_0 := 5
	  declare const $Chords_Group_0 := 7
	  declare const $BendUp_Group_0 := 10
	  declare const $BendDown_Group_0 := 13
	  declare const $Wobble_Group_0 := 15
	  declare const $Rips_Group_0 := 17
      declare $Norm_Robin
      declare $PedalTone_Robin
	  declare $Chords_Robin
	  declare $BendUp_Robin
	  declare $BendDown_Robin
	  declare $Wobble_Robin
	  declare $Rips_Robin


		declare $a
        declare $i
        declare $j
        declare $sel_ks
        declare $find_ks
        declare $old_btn
        declare $sel_btn
        declare %ID[$NUM_BUTTONS]


		declare %ks_list[$NUM_SOUNDS] := (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
        declare %key_lo[$NUM_SOUNDS] := (60, 62, 60, 57, 60, 57, 59)
        declare %key_hi[$NUM_SOUNDS] := (97, 79, 79, 74, 77, 67, 66)


        declare ui_button $Normal
        declare ui_button $PedalTone
        declare ui_button $Chords
        declare ui_button $BendUp
		declare ui_button $BendDown
		declare ui_button $Wobble
		declare ui_button $Rips

My other guess is that the wrong event note is triggered in the on note callback—an error with the event note and key_lo, key_hi array.

$find_ks := search(%ks_list, $EVENT_NOTE)


        if ($find_ks # -1)
            $sel_ks := $find_ks
            call KeyColor()
        end if


        if (not in_range($EVENT_NOTE, %key_lo[$sel_ks], %key_hi[$sel_ks]))
            ignore_event($EVENT_ID)
            exit
        end if

Or finally, is it possible that the function KeyColor defines what MIDI is triggered?

Either way, thank you so much for taking the time to go through this with me!

EvilDragon

Keycoloring has nothing to do with what gets triggered - it's just a UI thing.

That said, and this is just a minor thing, but you don't need exitwhen you ignore_event().

composer808

Keycoloring has nothing to do with what gets triggered - it's just a UI thing.

Thanks for clearing this up! I had figured as much but wanted to double-check. I'll dig through to spot any inconsistencies and start a new thread if needed. Thank you so much for taking the time to go through this!

That said, and this is just a minor thing, but you don't need exitwhen you ignore_event().

Got it! Thanks again!

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