Why is the NI list showing up twice? Why is there a separate NI (GmbH) list?

Murat Kayi
Murat Kayi DortmundMember Posts: 175 Saw
edited February 10 in Maschine

Hi,

when loading plugins with the dropdown list, I see

native instruments

Native Instruments (GmbH)

The latter only contains a VST3 version of Super 8. The upper has a bunch of doubles, one for VST, one for VST3. Does everyones list look like this?

I have the feeling, this whole installation is kinda messed up. Native Access shows a few plugins as "needs repair", because it says it can't find the 32bit plugin which I don't care for. But I can actually load all of my plugins. Except of when I start Komplete Kontrol itself within a host (Reaper). There, Komplete Kontrol says it can't find ANY of my plugins. What is going on, I wonder.

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  • Blindeddie
    Blindeddie U.S.A.Member Posts: 824 Saw
    edited February 8 Answer ✓

    Yes, that is what my list looks like. The Repair issue has to do with NA not removing some Registry entries when updating plugins and it still thinks there should be a 32 bit version… will post the Reg key to look at after I verify. For the reaper thing, check to make sure the versions of the VST and Standalone KK match. If not, that could be the issue.

    Edit: Here is the registry key and entry to delete to get rid of the "Repair" indicator for products that no longer have a 32 bit Vst.

    the registry key is:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Native Instruments\{product name here}

    in node for the product, look for an entry called "InstallVSTDir" and delete it (backup the registry first just in case) and NA will no longer indicate that the product requires Repair.

  • Murat Kayi
    Murat Kayi DortmundMember Posts: 175 Saw
    Answer ✓

    Actually, the previous title reflected better on what this question is about. The question is not only about the second list (GmbH), but also the first list with everything showing up twice. I wouldn't be able to say how I think the list should look like ...but I just wanted to check if the 32bit plugins problem, KK bot being able to find my plugins and this messy list were sort of connected.

    But it's true, it's cosmetic, especially since the three problems were not connected in any way

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  • Blindeddie
    Blindeddie U.S.A.Member Posts: 824 Saw
    edited February 8 Answer ✓

    Yes, that is what my list looks like. The Repair issue has to do with NA not removing some Registry entries when updating plugins and it still thinks there should be a 32 bit version… will post the Reg key to look at after I verify. For the reaper thing, check to make sure the versions of the VST and Standalone KK match. If not, that could be the issue.

    Edit: Here is the registry key and entry to delete to get rid of the "Repair" indicator for products that no longer have a 32 bit Vst.

    the registry key is:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Native Instruments\{product name here}

    in node for the product, look for an entry called "InstallVSTDir" and delete it (backup the registry first just in case) and NA will no longer indicate that the product requires Repair.

  • Murat Kayi
    Murat Kayi DortmundMember Posts: 175 Saw

    Hi thanks,

    I am in the midst of checking this out. But apart from that is the list affected by this, too? Or is that actually the way it is supposed to look for now?

  • Murat Kayi
    Murat Kayi DortmundMember Posts: 175 Saw

    Ok,

    I did what I'd totally scold my old man for if he reported this to me - I edited my registry based on the instructions of a stranger on the internet, LMAO!

    But it made sense and it also worked. Thanks a lot!

    How and where would I check for advice like this apart from the forums? Or in other words: How did you know?

    The list however still looks the same and is not making a good impression. It looks unstable. Or slightly crazy.

  • Blindeddie
    Blindeddie U.S.A.Member Posts: 824 Saw

    This would not fix the list...it "Is what it is" currently as there are VST2 and VST3 Plugins available but no way to exclude or categorize etc. Can't tell you how I Knew about the registry, I just did... 🙄🙄 and this is a relatively new find, and like I said NI is aware of it...when a fix will be implemented, I do not know.

  • Murat Kayi
    Murat Kayi DortmundMember Posts: 175 Saw

    lol, I understand. I basically just wanted to make sure I did not overlook a publically accessible source of wisdom that merited a RTFM for me. ☺️

  • Kaiwan_NI
    Kaiwan_NI BerlinAdministrator Posts: 641 admin

    @Murat Kayi You're not the only one (and probably not the last) with this question: Why does Super8 show up as NI GMBH?

    As mentioned in the post, our team is aware but since it's a cosmetic issue there's probably won't be a fix any time soon unfortunately.

  • Murat Kayi
    Murat Kayi DortmundMember Posts: 175 Saw
    Answer ✓

    Actually, the previous title reflected better on what this question is about. The question is not only about the second list (GmbH), but also the first list with everything showing up twice. I wouldn't be able to say how I think the list should look like ...but I just wanted to check if the 32bit plugins problem, KK bot being able to find my plugins and this messy list were sort of connected.

    But it's true, it's cosmetic, especially since the three problems were not connected in any way

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