How to prehear Massive User Presets in Maschine+ standalone mode

Janson vom Dach
Janson vom Dach Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
edited October 2024 in Maschine

Hello everybody!

Absolutely loving my Maschine+ but there is one thing I couldn't wrap my head around. Is it not possible to prehear User Presets in any synth? I can find the User Presets on my Maschine+ and can also load them, but I don't hear a thing when I'm browsing through the list. Is this by intention?

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  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,154 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Yes, generally user presets do not have prehear in Maschine SW and M+.

    Maybe, there might be a way to add prehear to user presets, but it is not simple, if possible. One would have to prepare the prehear file for preset and place it wright place and probably do some more things.....

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,770 mod
    edited February 2022 Answer ✓

    It's not technically hard but it's rather tedious.

    You have to export the audio, convert it to ogg, place it in a sub-folder called .previews , and make sure the file name is exactly the same as the preset but with the .ogg extension at the end. (of course, all this has to be done in a computer then you move it to the SD card)

    It works fine on Maschine+

    Screen Shot 2022-02-02 at 23.05.12.png

    NOTE: On MacOS folders that start with a . (dot) are hidden by default. Press CMD+SHIFT+. to toggle show hidden files on/off.

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  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,154 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Yes, generally user presets do not have prehear in Maschine SW and M+.

    Maybe, there might be a way to add prehear to user presets, but it is not simple, if possible. One would have to prepare the prehear file for preset and place it wright place and probably do some more things.....

  • Janson vom Dach
    Janson vom Dach Member Posts: 2 Newcomer

    Oh interesting. So you're saying there is a specific prehear file that doesn't get created for User Presets and that's why we're not able to prehear user presets? Why would anyone design it like this?

    Any plans on changing this / adding the capability to prehear any user presets (custom / 3rd party / whatever) in Maschine+ / Maschine SW?

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,070 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/3639#Comment_3639

    On the computer, the Native Browser Preview Library is even a separate installation of 8GB via Native Access. It contains audio files in a specific format which are used for the prehear of synth presets.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,154 Expert

    Yes, that is my understanding of things. I may be wrong......

    Prehear has been added to Maschine SW few years ago, but it is only for NKS factory sounds/presets.

    Some brave souls convert non NKS plugins to NKS and part of it is to create prehear files....

    No idea, if NI has any plans to add prehear of user presets. I doubt it, but who knows?

  • Eight4aWish
    Eight4aWish Member Posts: 55 Helper

    On a computer the prehear files are usually short ogg files with names like name.nksf.ogg which are stored in the presets folder “.previews” subfolder (on a Mac this folder is hidden). Some of the factory previews are stored in the NBPL library. The Maschine desktop software is good for exporting multiple, short wav files that you make using a simple one bar midi file. The old forums NKS User Library thread has guides from various people showing how to bulk trim the file names, convert wav to ogg etc.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,154 Expert

    So, generally it is not a simple 1 second task even if one knows how-to....

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,770 mod
    edited February 2022 Answer ✓

    It's not technically hard but it's rather tedious.

    You have to export the audio, convert it to ogg, place it in a sub-folder called .previews , and make sure the file name is exactly the same as the preset but with the .ogg extension at the end. (of course, all this has to be done in a computer then you move it to the SD card)

    It works fine on Maschine+

    Screen Shot 2022-02-02 at 23.05.12.png

    NOTE: On MacOS folders that start with a . (dot) are hidden by default. Press CMD+SHIFT+. to toggle show hidden files on/off.

  • Carosone
    Carosone Member Posts: 23 Member
    edited April 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/3902#Comment_3902

    this method also works for pre-listening groups/kits added in user mode?

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,770 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/144880#Comment_144880

    Yes, it does.

  • Carosone
    Carosone Member Posts: 23 Member

    Hi D-one I tried but something doesn't work. I ask you the .preview folder where you should place it? From your example it looks like you put it in the maschine 2/sound folder. In my case the xxx.mxgrp kit is in the user folder...but even putting it in this subdirectory doesn't work...

  • Vic Angelo
    Vic Angelo Member Posts: 127 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/3902#Comment_3902

    Wow, thank you so much!!!

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,770 mod
    edited April 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/145007#Comment_145007

    You put it in a .preview sub-folder in the same folder where your .mxgrp is. Works fine just tested it.

    The sounds folder was used in the screenshot because that's the original thread question.

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