Cubase 12 / Komplete Kontrol S88 integration problem

ahcvankampen

Hi,

I am using Windows 10, Cubase 12, Komplete Ultimate 13 (latest version of Komplete Control 2.7.2) and have the Komplete Kontrol S88 controller.

When I start Komplete Kontrol (KK) as a standalone program I can browser/use/etc any virtual instrument from the S88 (that is, I see the instrument on the S88 display).

When I try from Cubase 12 I get weird behaviour.

1) I need to run the standalone KK software, otherwise the Komplete Kontrol DAW midi port does not show up, or if it is there, it will disappear after a minute or so.

2) If I add multiple Virtual Instrument track and load Komplete Kontrol on each of these tracks, then I can use the S88 to browse and select virtual instruments. Works fine. Also the DAW controls (play, stop, etc) work.

3) When I close and re-open the cubase project then for some reason the VI tracks are not recognized anymore by the S88. That is, I don't see the instrument on the display of the S88. It just shows the general midi screen (but I can still play the instrument from the S88)

4) Next, if a add another VI and load Komplete Kontrol, and select an instrument then this instrument I can again control from the S88. The previous add VI still don't show up.

Looking at the instruments, I see that the newly added VI has the S88 as Controller (see screendump) while the previous VI doesn't have the S88 selected (see screendump).

I also included 2 screendumps from the cubase studio setup.

Any idea what is causing this? How to solve? Thanks,

Antoine

ahcvankampen

Dear all,

Thanks for the replies. The solution turned out to be simple (of course 😌). I unstilled the driver and and the komplete kontrol software from Settings --> Apps. Next I reinstalled, and now everything seems to work.

A

Brad Yost

Confirm that you have set up Cubase so that the S88 is an input MIDI device [Komplete Kontrol -1 driver] (for playing notes & track/instrument focus) and a separate setup as a Control Surface [Komplete Kontrol DAW-1 driver] and see if that helps.

Blindeddie

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/27521#Comment_27521

Based on the screenshots the OP posted, everything appears to be set up correctly for both midi and Daw control. The issue here appears to be the problem mentioned in Bullet point #1…

Brad Yost

@Blindeddie

So is it possible that Cubase is not accepting the instrument (or KK wrapper) focus? [I haven't used Cubase for years, so pulling from sketchy memory here...]

{OP screenshot of Midi Setup (pic#2) was only placeholder until third refresh on my browser, that's why I didn't see it}

Blindeddie

@Brad Yost

I just ran a test here (using an M32) with the same OS/Cubase/KK versions and everything works as expected, The fact the OP is having issue with the KK Daw driver makes me think that is the culprit...

ahcvankampen

Dear all,

Thanks for the replies. The solution turned out to be simple (of course 😌). I unstilled the driver and and the komplete kontrol software from Settings --> Apps. Next I reinstalled, and now everything seems to work.

A

Arnaud88

If you still have Komplete Kontrol Autofocus problem in Cubase, try this:

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/komplet-kontrol-no-kontrol-on-cubase-12/802157/4?u=arnaud88

Danix78

Hi all, thanks @Arnaud88,

given the problem of the AutoFocus on the Track breaking if the first parameter NIKBxx is changed, I would like to ask NI if it can move it by default to the last available slot.

I ask this because using Cubase's Quick Controls (which are based on the first 8 parameters of the VSTi) on the hardware, one knob/fader of the eight available will be lost, making knob/fader number 1 unused. Bringing the available controls to 7.

Alternative (perhaps hardly feasible): we can ask Steinberg if he gives us the possibility to change the numbers of the 8 Slots (not the parameters) to be associated with the Quick Controls. Example: instead of 1-8 we could choose 2-9 (or other as desired), so Slot 1 remains for the NIKBxx parameter.

Correct me if I say strange, impossible, wrong, etc. things. or if there is already a solution to not lose knob/fader number 1.

Thank you

Danix78

Thanks @Arnaud88 who answered me on the Steinberg Forum:

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/komplet-kontrol-no-kontrol-on-cubase-12/802157/10?u=arnaud88

veny

Hello,

I don't know if I'm in the right place.

I purchased the NI Komplete s88MK2 controls

The problem is that in Cubase 12 the tool freezes after a few minutes of operation.

They turn off the screen completely and all the buttons go out, even though the instrument can still be played with the last sound.

In Cubase, the tool disappears in the remote device, but you can continue to work in it. No error message.

In standalone mode, everything is OK, it works without problems.

KK can no longer be revived in Cubase. It must be started in standalone mode and then again in Cubase.

Does anyone have any advice?

Thank you