Traktor DJ 2 + Kontrol Z1 + iPad Pro 2020 11" not compatible ?

Thomas_J · 2022-01-24T20:12:33+00:00

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Hello,

I just bought a Kontrol Z1 in order to use it with Traktor DJ 2 on my iPad Pro 2020 11" (A12Z chip, USB-C).

I have connected the Kontrol Z1 with the original cable USB-A/USB-B to the USB-C Apple digital av multiport adapter (https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MUF82ZM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter) connected to my iPad Pro.

Kontrol Z1 knobs, faders are not recognized by Traktor DJ 2, it justs detected as an audio interface. LEDs are off.

I have tried the following adapter and cable with the same result :

USB-C to USB Adapter (https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1M2AM/A/usb-c-to-usb-adapter)
USB-C to USB-B Cable (https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B071KSTHYV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1)

My Kontrol Z1 is working correctly on my laptop (Lenovo / Windows 10 / Traktor DJ 2).

The firmware is up-to-date.

Note that there is no power socket input at the rear of my Z1.

I have also tried to uninstall/reinstall Traktor DJ 2 on my iPad.

I don't know what else to try, really ! You guys are my last chance before I give up and send it back to the vendor.

Thanks a lot for your help !

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Wyley

In the video it says that the power plug is required to use the iPad. At least your unit was legit. Does you box look like this with made for iPhone, iPad and works with Traktor dj on the box like this?

If so then it should work on the newer ipads. (not sure about the M1 yet) My Kontrol s2 mk2 Has this same print on the box and It works with my A14 iPad.

So far all my class compliant gear works on my iPad.

Kaiwan_NI

Hi @Thomas_J unfortunately the Z1 used to be compatible with iOS but since some time ago it is no longer. 😕

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Thomas_J

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/2516#Comment_2516

My box doesn’t mention « works with iPhone and iPad ». That would explain everything !

I will look for the same unit as you, I didn’t knew there were 2 versions of the Z1 …

Thanks a lot for your help Wyley!

Digital_Fist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1MaQ1D7Rvc

This is only 3 years old. It can't be out of date already?

Wyley

If so then it should work on the newer ipads. (not sure about the M1 yet) My Kontrol s2 mk2 Has this same print on the box and It works with my A14 iPad.

So far all my class compliant gear works on my iPad.

Kaiwan_NI

@WilbertS I don't have a documentation about the changes unfortunately but indeed only older batches of Z1 that carry a power socket are compatible with iPad. For the new batch please refer to the info on our website.

Wyley

You need an adaptor that receives power. Like this Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter$69.99Amazon CA

edit

I just saw you tried this already. watch

No power socket on your z1?

edit

Open traktor dj first then connect the controller. This is how I have do it with my Akai amx. Most stuff on the iPad requires you to open the software first before adding a device.

Wyley

Ok apparently you can't use it on an iPad without the power cable plugged in.

Send it back and get one that has a power input. The unit you have looks counterfeit as I can't find any info on a z1 without the power socket.

Go to 1:20 in this video for the requirements to work on iOS

Thomas_J

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/2412#Comment_2412

Thank you for your answers.

I don’t think my unit is counterfeit as I have successfully imported it in my NI account with the serial number.

I bought it on Woodbrass (French number 1 seller of musical equipment).

I will send it back anyway as it doesn’t work. I will look for a Z1 with power input.

I can’t see your video for the iOS requirements, the link is missing. Can you please add it?

Stevan

Just checked system requirements here: https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/traktor/dj-controllers/traktor-kontrol-z1/specifications/

There is no mention about iPad support but I heard that Z1 is not supported on newer iPads.

basile

Just to give you some hope my Z1 (old original one, that had the works with apple box and a power supply connection) works with my 2020 iPad Pro with the usual cable and the apple usb-c adapter and no external power source needed at all

WilbertS

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/10165#Comment_10165

Hi Kaiwan,

Do you have more details about this changes from Apple? I have similar situation; Z1 without ext power socket, purchased from Thomann, and iPad Air with M1 processor and USB-C interface. Controller is not recognized.

Jensen

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/20948#Comment_20948

What's the product # or ID of the "older batch" - I'm in the process of returning my new unit and trying to find an "old batch"

I bought the Z1 exclusively for iPad use based on the Native Instruments promo video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1MaQ1D7Rvc

Couldn't believe when I unboxed it and it was a totally different product!

Digital_Fist

I'm also interested in this. My friend has been using a 10 year old iPad Air and a Z1 with a pair of Minirigs very successfully for a mobile setup for about a year, but from what I'm reading that isn't supposed to work anymore and I can't see any alternative solution suggested. Dragging my S2 out into a forest would kind of defeat the object of going hard on the portability.

tomislav

any recommendation on the windows based tablet we can use with the Z1? i bought my Z1 this year so i suppose i can't use it with ipad. i prefer to buy some second hand windows tablet up to 300 euro / usd

MikeKelly

I don’t understand this either - was this a conscious design decision or something that has happened inadvertently? Why dumb down your design and effectively remove yourself from a very real world requirement? Weird. I have a new Z1 and despite buying all manner of cabling to interface the z1 to my iPad it has refused to work. Works fine with the old MacBook Pro on USB-C but dies after all LEDs light up for a split second.

Kaiwan_NI

Hi @Thomas_J unfortunately the Z1 used to be compatible with iOS but since some time ago it is no longer. 😕

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