Komplete Kontrol presets inside Logic

So I'm in Logic, and I have a Reaktor user ensemble loaded into Komplete Kontrol (so I can use my KK S61's knobs to control it, rather than just Reaktor because the S61 knobs don't seem to work that way), and I wish to scroll through the presets tagged in the ensemble - in this case Agent Orange v1.5… but I CAN'T! Whenever I try scrolling through them using the window - reading 'Agent Orange' in the image - it changes ensembles rather than the ensemble's presets. I'm looking for a way to do what I wanna do. Help?

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Kymeia

It sounds like it is not adapted to work in Komplete Kontrol. I’ll have a look at it later

Kymeia

First the Bank name needs changing so it will show under Reaktor Instruments

Then for all snapshots the Meta Info needs changing to 'Instrument' - then save it

Then whatever folder you have it in, the path needs adding to the Komplete Kontrol User Library paths and scanned - then it should appear like this (in the User section for Reaktor):

And when loaded you should see all snapshots imported automatically and KK presets

These are the minimal necessary steps to get it to do what you want in Komplete Kontrol. The only other thing would be to map the params to KK knobs - but that will depend on how the automation is setup in the ensemble - it might need some editing.

Kymeia

Looking at the automation most params for the 2 OSCS and SUB are mappable, as is most of the filter and AMP env, but the OSC Env has some params that are not given automation IDs (or are too high for KK to pick them up) so that would require editing the ensemble itself - however I have made a basic template based on what can be mapped already

bufordosullivan

Thank you Kymeia. Yes, I edited the ensemble and put the metadata on the presets, named the bank, and it does open in KK. I just can't scroll through the presets using the next and previous buttons on the keyboard, nor can I mouse through them up on the top control bar. I'd just use reaktor but then it won't show up in the keyboard plug-in window.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/242610#Comment_242610

Both those things are working for me. Are you browsing them in KK's browser?

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/242598#Comment_242598

Luckily the automation for the OSC Env was an easy fix - the IDs were set in the ens but not enabled for some reason

Several other params also needed enabling (eg master pan, tube dist on etc)

Kymeia

This is it now with the full template

bufordosullivan

I am browsing for them in KK's browser, but the one that is open with the ensemble visible with the drop down at the top next to the view options, not the splash page with all the thumbnails. It could be the way I have KK set up, I just can't seem to find my mistake.

bufordosullivan

.. plus I am trying to page with the 'next' and 'previous' buttons on my s61. KK doesn't seem to follow the plugin banks for the ensemble.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/242637#Comment_242637

No it doesn't, it imports them just as an alphabetical list, although it is possible to tag the snapshots to recreate the same categories (pad, lead etc). Actually there is a slightly complicated way to get it to respect banks but tagging is less clunky

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/242636#Comment_242636

So if you have it open and are browsing like this it should also show on the keyboard and be browsable using next/prev buttons

bufordosullivan

Thanks for your research. I think my question is answered in that, no, there is no way to do what I want to. There SHOULD be, though. "Hey, Native Instruments! Get this thing together, man!"

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/242790#Comment_242790

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you want to do but it is possible to browse the presets using prev/next buttons and from the keyboard browser, once the ensemble is setup correctly to import them into Komplete Kontrol. Check out the latest update which should be posted sometime today. In that update presets are also tagged based largely on the sub bank categories

bufordosullivan

That would be awesome. Yes, when I'm in Komplete Kontrol inside Logic, I would like to have an ensemble loaded up, and scroll through its presets with the Next/Previous buttons on my S61. As it stands now, I start on an ensemble with lots of presets, hit the Next button, and it switches ensembles altogether, and I didn't program it that way. It happens to many ensembles, not just Agent Orange. Thus, this may be a KK question, rather than an Agent Orange question. Of course, Agent Orange sounds so good, that I may wish to just stay on it…

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/242800#Comment_242800

As I said above, Reaktor ensembles need certain things to load their presets into Komplete Kontrol (meta information and a bank name are the minimum) but once that is done, and the ensemble placed in a location that the KK database scans, they are browsable from the keyboard the way you are asking for. That is true of pretty much all ensembles.

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