Can I use these samples with Dorico?

dons
dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer
in Native Access

I downloaded <CarillondeGand.sfArk> from Sonokinetic. It said it was compatible with VST. I would like to import this library into Dorico.

Is this doable?

Thanks,

Don

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  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert

    If what you are referring to is the Carillon Kontakt Library from Sonokinetik, you must open the Kontakt VST inside of Dorico and there open the Library

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    Great!

    It is Carillon from Sonokinetik. How do I open Kontakt VST inside Dorico? I haven't actually ordered Kontakt yet. I wanted to make sure it would work first.

    Also, there's nothing in Dorico's manual about this so I have no idea how to proceed.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert
    edited April 12

    You don’t need to order full Kontakt, it works with the free Kontakt Player version, which is included, with other products, in the free Komplete Start bundle. Links (the page for Kontakt Player will lead you to the page for Komplete Start, but I add them both):

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/samplers/kontakt-8-player/

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/bundles/komplete-start/

    Once you have it, you’ll probably be prompted to also download Native Access (the NI installation and authorization manager). There you’ll be able to install what interests you from the bundle.

    Once you also have Kontakt Player installed, it will be scanned by Dorico and you can open it as any other plugin (VST or AU since you’re on MAC) inside of it. (Maybe open Kontakt as standalone the first time before opening it in Dorico, to let it build its library)

    Another free download you can install is Komplete Kontrol, that is another “wrapper” that can open Kontakt libraries (in facts it opens Kontakt inside of it) and gives the advantage to use NKS (a “format” that automaps some of the libraries parameters to some keyboards, if you own one of them):

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/bundles/komplete-kontrol/

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    OK, so far so good. But I don't know how to import Carillon Kontakt Library into Dorico, or how to find it once it's there.

    Thank you for being so patient.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert

    No problem.

    You don’t have to look for Carillon. You look for Kontakt (or Komplete Kontrol) and then you’ll find Carillon inside of them

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    OK, where do I look for them?

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert
    edited April 12

    In Dorico you should have a VST and Midi section. There you can add instruments. In the list appearing you should find Kontakt. Once it is loaded, you can open its interface with the “e” button.

    You should find a “how to use plugins” section in Dorico’s manual

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    I opened Kontakt Player 8, then tried to load Carillon, but it was greyed out.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert

    This is another issue. I’m not that expert with Dorico.

    By “greyed out” do you mean is not selectable? And…what is greyed out? Carillon inside of Kontakt?

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    So I opened Kontakt, went to Libraries, clicked load then navigated to the Carillon file. It was not selectable. I haven't even gotten to Dorico yet. My Carillon f is not inside Kontakt. It doesn't recognize the file.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert
    edited April 12

    You probably need to add the Carillon serial number in Native Access, so it will authorize it

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    That was very helpful. I now have Kontakt 6 as well, and I'm installing Carillon. I have a 40 minute wait ahead of me. After that we'll see if it works yet. It seems like I'm making progress.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert
    edited April 12

    One day you’ll reach the point where you will actually be making music…😂

    The joy of computers and set ups 😏

  • dons
    dons Member Posts: 8 Newcomer

    So, I have Kontakt 7. It does play Carillon. I can even get it to play in Garage Band, altho it still refuses to record there. What I still cannot do is import it into Dorico so I can use the sounds in my score, which was why I started this so many, many hours ago.

    Any thoughts?

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,208 Expert
    edited April 12

    As said, you don’t have to “import” it. You have to open Kontakt plugin in Dorico.

    You go to Play, then VST and Midi, add an instrument and from the list chose Kontakt. Open its interface with the “e” button and there load Carillon.

    In the manual:

    https://www.steinberg.help/r/dorico-pro/5.1/en/dorico/topics/play_mode/play_mode_vst_midi_instruments_loading_manually_t.html
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