Using Maschine on Linux?

snacktothefuture · 2022-07-01T10:47:29+00:00

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Normally, companies want to make money. You obviously don't.

I just read here https://blog.native-instruments.com/the-making-of-maschine-plus/ that the Maschine+ uses it's own custom Linux operating system.

That's weird. You built the Maschine+ on Linux, yet you don't even bother to support it?

I know, I know... the typical "Linux users make up a tiny percentage bla bla"

Have you considered that more people would be using Linux, if they could only use their Machine Mikro MK3 etc. product on it? You already build your products on Linux, so it seems like putting out a driver or getting proper integration with BitWig should be on the top of your to-do list.

Why are you like this?

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Tony Jones

I don't see moving a lot of products to Linux to build a market as being preferable to fixing bugs, improving GUIs, M1, VST3, retiring legacy products...

The whole 'Field of Dreams' argument costs a lot of money, and then would Linux users pay full price?

Monochrome

No matter what hardcore linux fanboys may say: Linux (and its various distros) is just not good for powering end-user PCs. For workstations and servers, yes. That's the reality, has been for years now. The small percentage of users simply doesn't justify the amount of work a company has to do in order to support it.

As long as Linux' standing doesn't improve significantly, little will change.

snacktothefuture

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/22726#Comment_22726

Fixing bugs is nice, but they already have several working products. If they began supporting them on Linux, that would mean several new income streams. They do not make any money fixing bugs for products they have already sold, but they could earn a lot of money by broadening their target audience.

Plus, the Maschine+ already runs on Linux, so it's a no-brainer. This is why I'm seriously wondering what's up?

snacktothefuture

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/22729#Comment_22729

I've been running primarily on Linux for close to 2 decades, granted I'm tech savvy, but I've also helped dozens of other people with transitioning. We're talking people from all sorts of backgrounds and even my grandma.

I don't know exactly which distribution you last tried or when that was, but things have changed. For quite a lot of people, running Linux (Ubuntu, Mint, Zorin) is a game-changer and way easier than Windows. It even brings old laptops back to life and there's no need for antivirus :P

Plus, Linux simply utilized hardware better once it's actually supported: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE-9uFJRpKg You could never build stuff like this on Windows. Impossible.

"The small percentage of users doesn't justify the amount of work a company has to do in order to support it."

They built the Machine+ on Linux... doesn't sound like much work.

snacktothefuture

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/22726#Comment_22726

They don't make money selling bugs for products they've already sold.

They already have several working products and by adding Linux support they'd open themselves up to entirely new income streams.

It's a no-brainer. Of course Linux users would pay the price... they'd have to. It's the same product.

nightjar

Jeeez... I wonder what other choices could be made???

😆

snacktothefuture

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/22756#Comment_22756

Please do elaborate

suamor

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/22735#Comment_22735

That's not true. Support for products is a big money income. Half of my income is based on support for older platforms.

Building Linux-based machines is very common nowadays. I have seen several cases where these machines do not have any Linux support. I also see that developers have been using Windows solely as platform for development.

Even MS company is using Linux and support some of their products on it. Many companies are using Linux based servers while their clients are Windows / Mac only.

On the positive side there are companies offering laptops and desktops for Windows, Linux or no operating system. It's your choice what you will use.

be3

I don't think it would take more than a day to set up a github account, and place your driver code there, and let linux enthusuasts do all the work for you and also update the code, reduce bugs, which would increase portability for updates back to windows and macs.

You could experiment with the maschine mk3, and see how that is taken in the multi- operating system community.

peace and love

be3

That said it would make a lot of users happy, and give them the feel good factor for native instruments, which would create a following, and sell a few more maschines along the way, maybe even getting a mk4 to fruition, a bit like what happened with the deluge, could interest users to buy your other kit as well.

It's a real downer when your mac packs up, or when windows breaks, and the only thing you can do is to install linux, as something stable, in your life.

Thanks for hearing me.

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