M+ switch groups using midi program change?

ManoVarunKumar
ManoVarunKumar Member Posts: 14 Sine

Is it possible to switch groups in maschine+ using midi program change?

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  • ozon
    ozon SwitzerlandMember Posts: 347 Saw
    edited January 23 Answer ✓

    Does your e-drum allow to have different MIDI note assignments for each program?

    If yes, you could probably set up the Groups to all receive on the same MIDI channel but start at a different MIDI note, separating them by octaves. For example: Group A starts at C1, Group B at C2, Group C at C3.

    Your e-drum would have to be set up to send MIDI notes from C1 for Kit 01, C2 for Kit 02, or even use any combination of notes from several Groups.

    I haven’t tested this but it is possible when using Maschine as plugin in a DAW and it should work for standalone as well, in theory.

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  • D-One
    D-One PortugalModerator Posts: 408 mod

    No, not an option in Maschine generally.

    If you're asking specifically for recording then Maschine will autofocus whatever Group is receiving MIDI when record is enabled, for other purposes I am not aware of any workaround.

  • valerianmengsk
    valerianmengsk Member Posts: 17 Sine

    Doesn't look like it, but if it really cannot be done, perhaps this is a nice suggestion to submit to the devs. ;)

  • ManoVarunKumar
    ManoVarunKumar Member Posts: 14 Sine
    edited January 22

    Here is a good use case where this might come handy, if you connect any e-drums via midi when you switch between kits most e-drums send program change msg so different groups on m+ can be mapped to different kits for sound expansion and live performance this would be game changer. Combining this along with round robin, drummers can get realistic sounds, this has been a dream of mine for years now. Initially I was thinking to use mk3 + laptop connected to drums via midi but since I recently got m+ was like this is even better since I don’t need to even bother about carrying laptop. Hope NI can implement this soon 🤞.

  • ozon
    ozon SwitzerlandMember Posts: 347 Saw
    edited January 23 Answer ✓

    Does your e-drum allow to have different MIDI note assignments for each program?

    If yes, you could probably set up the Groups to all receive on the same MIDI channel but start at a different MIDI note, separating them by octaves. For example: Group A starts at C1, Group B at C2, Group C at C3.

    Your e-drum would have to be set up to send MIDI notes from C1 for Kit 01, C2 for Kit 02, or even use any combination of notes from several Groups.

    I haven’t tested this but it is possible when using Maschine as plugin in a DAW and it should work for standalone as well, in theory.

  • ManoVarunKumar
    ManoVarunKumar Member Posts: 14 Sine

    Thank you @ozon ill give it a shot.

  • ozon
    ozon SwitzerlandMember Posts: 347 Saw

    In case you didn’t find it yet:

    Channel > Group > Input > Routing > Manual


  • ManoVarunKumar
    ManoVarunKumar Member Posts: 14 Sine
    edited February 9


    Thank you @ozon , I used your method in combination with lock states, so it turns out I can switch between lock states using program change, so I ended up setting it as, every lock state has only one group soloed, so every time there is a program change it picks a new lock state which solos a specific group. This way I can keep the same midi mapping for all the groups, its just that the groups are soloed accordingly.😀

  • D-One
    D-One PortugalModerator Posts: 408 mod

    Oohh... That's a pretty smart workaround

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