Can you please do an update for the S4 MK3 controller? Reason Below.

Darren U.K. Dj · 2024-11-07T15:33:56+00:00

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Hi, As a professional Dj since 1999 (only income is Dj'ing) Started Dj'ing early 90's.

Please can you do a software update for the S4 MK3.

I find it quite hard to get my head around why you mapped the S4 so on each stem volume/filter adjustment you need 2 hands to preform a single task, as to adjust the EQ only one hand so the other hand is free to adjust volumes/eq/crossfader, or move the jog wheels to tighten top the mix, during in the mix eg. deck A to deck B. So its just over complicated things?

Please can you just do this simple software update:

Send each stem to the FX knob at the top of the mixer (it will know weather its eg. A or C as will be the one you have selected by the jog wheel).
The Strem/Fx knob is always LIVE, like the EQ knobs so you only need one hand now.
The FX knob light below each FX/Stem knob, If the light is off the knob will only work that stem volume, if the light is on it uses the Filter on the FX/Stem knob.
In the S4 0r Traktor Preferences have a "tick-box" "Sent Srems To FX" so when ticked it sends stems to FX, & this is saved when closing Trackor down like any changes (opens how you left it).

You will always need JOG wheels to be a fully versatile controller, as we all know if you heavily add or take away eg. Bass Eq you need the jog wheels to push the track forward a bit now to sound perfectly in time (sync will not do this as it looks lined up on the screen, but to your ear its almighty out of time / same with off-beats etc. - Why we still needs Jog wheels especially if you have to play older not in time music / quicker to adjust by ear/jog when then completely re-mapping/grid of a 3-4 min track & smoother).

You still need 4 decks as if one "locks" in error so you can't load another track (this still does happen), or mainly use 2 main playing decks & the other for tricks, the remaining deck for mic or eg. Saxophone input.

Kill switches went out with Hard-House… but still a very handy tool so might be with leaving the 4 pads below the Jog wheel, as Kill each stem on/off, before it sends to FX/Stem knob?

Thing thing I have learned about using Stems is you still need to use the EQ on the same track to reduce any sharp bits (turn it down & you muffle it a bit otherwise when the stem volume increase to normal slowly it can sound harsh / EQ gets rid of it-what we all did before stems).

Above is just a simple fix to get the most out of Traktor Stems & S4 MK3, as currently its usability (both hands needed), stops you bering creative as the other hand is needed to adjust another slider/knob etc.

I have spent well over 2 weeks trying to map the S4 MK3 to do this, but it won't & the "quick fix" on YouTube dissent work & still holds the Dj back from "full one hand control per deck".

Me think if you do the above & a marketing video on what the re-map does it will be flying off the self, as a "one stop" shop controller for all Dj's & music genres old & new.

Please do the update,

Darren

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Martiniix_NI

Hello!

Thank you for all the feedback, we will have a look.

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Darren U.K. Dj

Sorry I am dyslexic so some typo's.

With technology today it's so easy to get wrapped up with "new tricks" what things can do, but in the real-world it overcomplicates things so you work twice as hard using them?

I Dj every week (paid as my only income), so have to be fully versatile eg. weddings is my main income (hence Abba don't keep time & things that force it in time sound Bad, as people dancing know when tracks race in time etc. So my main job is to put tracks/songs together that should never go together smoothly constantly changing BPM/tracks with different keys (changing track keys also sound bad as people know the key it should be in), also things that don't keep time… So the Bride or Groom when you playing Abba Dancing Queen, asked for there favourite D&B or the hottest Ibiza track (hen/stag there) song to be mixed in next = I work hard at weddings as do those imposable mixes to keep the dance floor jumping! why the S4 is perfect.Also I do university bookings, proms, club/bar etc. Gotta balance the books…

So if you have any "new ideas?/equipment" & want to test them used in the "real versatile Dj world" let me know as it gets rid of the "fine tuning" before release? OK gotta be 101% reliable for weddings & fully versatile, most Dj's arnt going to do "production sets" at festivals, but do a bar/friens parties to pay for kit (they have to play things they don't like, to be able to do the things they like). Realistically we ain't gonna be the new Diplo, or Carl Cox, but nice to have kit that will let the Dj be more creative when its needed, but never should forget the basics you need eg. jog wheel (you will always see them act festivals etc. & used). My S4 Mk is showing heavy wear so if you do a MK4 & the software update above I would test it? OK there's a few more years left in it tho.

eversorich

Hey Darren,

Would this help? I have done it on may MK3 and it's superb!

eversorich

Oops! Helps if I post the link!

https://youtu.be/lhrMLEUKUB0?si=RA305BWiUUXlFkph

eversorich

And this is the actual how to:

https://medium.com/@dj_nuo/traktor-kontrol-s4-mk3-stems-fx-sends-mapping-78022e233d4d

Darren U.K. Dj

Hi,

I did try the link & it did not work? (Spent 2 months trying to get stems to fx). I’ve ordered 2 Kontrol F1 units (before they are discontinued as think they are better than the new ones/don’t need a screen on them).
thanks for your advice.

Darren

Darren U.K. Dj

I think the F1 gives more control overall as I’m using stems to get rid of key conflicts mainly (you can volume & filter at the same time & the long volume slider gives more control as not “all or nothing”.

Gregory Johnson

i feel it's really time for a upgrade on the s4 ! whats Next Native Insturments ????? this will be my second repair What now ,this is really Painful 🙄not going any wear else now its your turn you ask for money I get it up no questions What time is it ,time for you to come across !

xavier GILLES

I also would like to have the possibility to configure a button to toggle eq to stem volume just like it exists on the Z1 mk2

Martiniix_NI

Hello!

Thank you for all the feedback, we will have a look.

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