Unlinking samples when chopping using sampler

Gelert7

Hi

Simple question - after using SLICE feature to chop up a sample - is there any way, or before using the SLICE feature, to unlink samples so that a chop plays from beginning to end of the whole sample rather than from beginning of chop 1 to beginning of chop 2

As can be seen above the chops will only play from start to end of each individual chop - but I would like it to play from start to end of WHOLE sample.
I know I can just move the endpoint of each chop to the end of the sample but must I do this every time - especially when I have 64+ chops to deal with? If there is an automation for it - I'd love to hear it as well - any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you. 🫡

LostInFoundation

One way to be quite fast could be chopping “the old way”: you select the start of your first chop in the first pad, then copy/paste this pad to the second one, move the start point, copy/paste to third, move the start point, copy/paste to fourth…and so on (you get the idea).

In this way you’ll never touch end point and all the chops will play all the way through

Gelert7

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/186648#Comment_186648

Thank you mate - I also love the "old method" BUT when I get to 16 CHOPS - I need to move to group B (assuming I started on group A) correct? How do I choke a CHOP from group A and group B? e.g. CHOP 15 is in group A and CHOP 18 is in group B - is there a way to use choke groups to make sure that if I hit CHOP 15 then want to move to CHOP 18 - they will cut each other off - is there a way to do this?

Thank you 🫡

LostInFoundation

No, you should be able to continue with chop 17, 18, … in the same group

Gelert7

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/186655#Comment_186655

oh really? how could I do that? any possibility you can explain a step by step method for me to do that please?

LostInFoundation

Sorry…I must have mixed something I can do with my MPC with Maschine…

Effectively, when trying to duplicate pad 16 what gets proposed is Group B, not pad 17 in next bank (banks are always been quite mysterious in Maschine…).

I’m trying to see if I can find a workaround for you, otherwise my method can be used only if you have 16 slices or less

Gelert7

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/186675#Comment_186675

All good - yeh when I was rockin with the MPC - it was quite simple to do with the banks feature in MPC - if you find a way to do it on Maschine - please do let me know - or any workaround is also appreciated.

Thank you 🫡

D-One

No, there's no way to bulk edit end points of several slices, no workarounds neither — but it might be a lot faster to change all the end points by using the controller to select the slice and mouse to drag the end point if in Keyboard Mode / all slices in a single Pad.

But at that point, the "oldschool" method of duplicating the previous Pad and only changing the start point might be more practical, depends… This is what I usually do.

Effectively, when trying to duplicate pad 16 what gets proposed is Group B, not pad 17 in next bank (banks are always been quite mysterious in Maschine…).

Best way to look at it IMO is that there are no Banks in Maschine, thats an MPC thing. While technically there are, in MAS banks are more of an Instrument/Zone thing.

We should at least have an option to auto slice into more than 1 Group when slices are more than 16.

Maybe what could be considered a workaround is to:

• First slice the sample in half to 2 Pads, truncate, then slice each half to 16 Pads of a new Group, then you get the two 16 slice Pad Mode Groups, similar to two Banks on an MPC.

However, if the user wants 64 slices then it takes exponentially more time but if it's just 32 slices it can be an alternative.

LostInFoundation

Another method is to slice, apply to one group, then delete the first 16 slices so that 17-32 will become the “new” 1-16 and apply those to another group.

But both our methods won’t solve OP problem: slices on different groups can’t choke one another.

But at least they will be accessible

D-One

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/186844#Comment_186844

Oh right. If Choke is required then single Pad (Keyboard Mode) is required and manually changing each end point is the only way.

LostInFoundation

I think the only way is…learning to work within Maschine limitations ☺️

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/186846#Comment_186846

I think it could be useful to know also that in single pad slicing, to achieve a choke effect you must set the sample to mono in sampler options (thing I learned time ago thanks to D-One ☺️)

Gelert7

I see - thank you guys for your help - appreciate you both.

Salute