Reaktor instruments for maschine plus stand alone

Manbehindthemachine
Manbehindthemachine Member Posts: 14 Member
in Maschine

Hello Maschine plus users ,

I'm developping Reaktor synthesizers for one year to be used on Maschine plus stand alone with low CPU consumption.

I presented the first one at synthfest 2024 in France.

The main features of these reaktor instruments are easy to use with a low amount of controls ,low CPU consumption and a new gauges style of parameter display that alows a better overview of the parameter state.

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They are cross platform compatible , that means they can be used on maschine plus stand alone , with maschine Daw , with komplete kontrol keyboards

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and as a regular plugin in any daw that supports the Reaktor vst due to their Graphical interfaces .

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I would be curious to know if the Maschine Plus community might be interested in this type of instrument .

Man Behind The machines

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  • keilyn3d
    keilyn3d Member Posts: 15 Member

    Sound great, I´m interested.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,760 Expert

    While I admire and commend your efforts and dedication, I fail to see the advantages over existing offerings.

    Maschine+ already offers several great sounding synths engines:

    • Bass Synth (internal)
    • Drum Synth (internal)
    • Poly Synth (internal)
    • FM8 (VST)
    • Massive (VST)
    • Monark (Reaktor VST)
    • Prism (Reaktor VST)

    Additionally, owners of the full Reaktor license can download and adapt custom ensembles from the Reaktor User Library to work on the M+. Which unfortunately and admittedly is often not easy.

    What would be the benefits (or unique selling points) of your instruments?

  • Manbehindthemachine
    Manbehindthemachine Member Posts: 14 Member
    edited September 9

    I will try to explain that

  • Manbehindthemachine
    Manbehindthemachine Member Posts: 14 Member
    edited September 9

    I totaly agree with you on the fact that NI synth avaliable on the Maschine plus are okay but they are not well adapted (in my opinion) for a full heavy standalone production or live performance use :

    To many parameters

    No clear visual feedback of the knob values

    No easy way to control the synth parameters inside Maschine Plus (Monark cutoff for exemple) with an external USB MIDI Controller .

    This results from my personal experience as a Maschine plus user of course.

    The fact is that Maschine plus is quite limited in terms of CPU power .

    I play an entier live with the Maschine plus in standalone mode (no computer) with a lot of synth plugins running in realtime because i control them with an external USB MIDI controller.

    Monark for exemple, a monophonic synth, is eating 20 % of CPU for one instance loaded in a Sound.

    My Reaktor User synths have a monophonic and a polyphonic version which consume  respectively 6% and 10% of the CPU power   .

    On FM8 and Massive , the parameter layout is not adapted to be used on maschine plus in standalone  (16 pages of parameters)

    Eatch parameters has a different numerical ratio for exemple :

                                   Min    Half    Max
    Cutoff (0 to 100) : 0        50      100

    Reso   (0 to 10)    : 0        5        10

    Volume (0 to 60) : 0        30      60

    I redesigned the parameter display with gauges instead of numerical values to have a clear visual value feedback ( from empty gauge to full gauge ) like below :

    IMG_20240909_154041.jpg

    Finaly , in a live performance situation , those synths are midi mapable directly to any external USB MIDI Controller connected to the Maschine Plus in Standalone mode .

    No need to :
    1) Open my project in Maschine 2 on the computer
    2) Map the parameters
    3) Save the project on the Maschine plus SD card
    4) Re-open the project on the Maschine plus in standalone mode

    I Can directly do it on the Maschine plus in standalone mode :
    1)Choose the parameter I want to control ( ex : cutoff)
    2) Assign it to the control change i want (ex : CC 20)

    It's been a long time since we've had a major update to Maschine Plus and
    those features will never be added via an update ( I think ) but in my workflow I need them.

    I know that this is very specific to my use of Maschine Plus, of course, but I find it interesting to see if there are other users who would need these type of features on the Standalone Maschine Plus.

    I hope I have managed to explain in an understandable way the advantages offered by these Reaktor instruments.

    Greatings

    Man Behind the Maschines

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,768 Expert

    I personally would love to see some addons for the Maschine Plus.

    IMO that's where it's lacking when compared to MPCs, as Akai regularly release plug-ins that run on the standalone units and on the desktop sofware.

    There's been nothing like that for the Maschine Plus.

  • Manbehindthemachine
    Manbehindthemachine Member Posts: 14 Member

    Completely agree.

    I am not familiar with the MPC workflow but with version 3 of the firmware which was recently released, AKAI takes a significant lead compared to the Maschine Plus with interesting fractures like the stem separation for exemple.

    By the way Maschine Plus is not limited to 8 instrument and has stil more RAM and a slightly better cpu (Not 100% sure about the specs)

    At the end what matters is the workflow that you're the confortable with . 😄

  • KrisG
    KrisG Member Posts: 15 Member

    Akai uses a very cheap rockchip arm cpu. The atom chip in the Maschine is a bit better than the rockchip. The huge difference here is the RAM. 2GB vs 4GB. Also thats the reason MPC uses now diskstreaming samples to save memory.

    In the end it all depends on how the software is being optimized for the fixed hardware. Remember the old iphones with low spec hardware? Android had higher spec hardware but still sluggish interface.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,760 Expert

    @Manbehindthemachine thank you for the detailed explanation of features, use cases and target audience for your instruments.

    In my workflow I prefer to use the Synth engines I know, especially Monark as a portable replacement for my Voyager.

    To be able to assign MIDI CC on the fly is great indeed, especially for live performance with various controllers. But it is not a feature I need. However, I welcome any improvements in MIDI handling in the M+ and still hope for NI to wake up and do a proper MIDI implementation.

    @tetsuneko @djadidai and a few other M+ users might be interested for live performance applications.

  • tetsuneko
    tetsuneko Member Posts: 766 Expert
    edited September 10

    Sounds interesting! I would certainly be down to testing these when they are released.

    How did you manage to get the graphical bars for the parameters to show up in the M+ UI? This is something I havent seen before, and if these bar graphs update in real time, would actually be very useful for me in my own Reaktor ports. I have been looking for a way to display compressor gain reduction amount somehow, but the numerical parameters do not update in M+ standalone reliably..

    I also notice you are using a Komplete keyboard. Have you managed to suss out how to control the lightguides of KK keyboards in M+? This is also something I'm very interested in

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,768 Expert

    I found a video from Synthfest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmX6BBJ8E5A

  • HugoClubs
    HugoClubs Member Posts: 78 Helper

    This man is doing Native Instruments job.

    Great stuff!!!

  • Manbehindthemachine
    Manbehindthemachine Member Posts: 14 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/177061#Comment_177061

    That was a very cool event . I was surprised by people's interest in the Maschine Plus in a show mainly dedicated to hardware machines .

  • Manbehindthemachine
    Manbehindthemachine Member Posts: 14 Member

    https://youtu.be/lfM4Phs5SH8?si=Y5VWNkMd_UPWCanv

  • el-bo
    el-bo Member Posts: 69 Helper

    Great stuff! Really interested to see these out in the wild.

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