M+ standalone optimized Reaktor content from the community

djadidai

Discussions lately here have been the most interesting on the forum! I don’t understand much of what you guys do, but you seem curious and focused on solutions! Wihooo!!

Robert13

But what about NIs own reactor ensambles, like Flesh, Froms, Kontour, Molekular, Polyplex, Skanner XT, Spark, Super 8 and TRK-01? Does anybody has worked those out yet?

ozon

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/177282#Comment_177282

Not possible as they need an installed license to work. I tried to create a version of Driver, which worked fine in the Maschine application but was completely dead on the M+.

Robert13

@ozon Thank you for the quick responce. I hope that there will be made available through download. But as they are quite old, I don't think so.

anzbert

I made a DJ style one knob filter with a few settings in reaktor, ready with M+ mappings:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/15457/

anzbert

i have a question. If I have a value in reaktor that is mapped to a maschine knob, which is being set from within reaktor to a different value. How can I make this knob change to the new value?

I have a filter knob in my ensemble, which is being reset back to the default center value by another knob. While the value changes within reaktor, and the change can be heard, and the valuer shows as being reset in the hardware UI, the filter knob position does not change in the maschine software. the next time i move the filter it does not start moving from the center, but from whatever value it was at before the reset.

I guess the question is… can a value and knob position be reliably changed from a reaktor patch?

I hope I am making this problem clear to understand 😅

EDIT:

I think i figured it out. This seems to be a Reaktor bug and I created another post in the reaktor forum:

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/38651/i-thing-i-found-a-bug-in-how-reaktor-communicates-value-changes-to-the-plugin-host

tetsuneko

Been a minute. New goodies for the M+ - Mid/Side processing!

Now you can utilize Mid/Side processing for anything and everything in Maschine+ standalone. Just add these two ensembles to your SD card as usual:

M+S-ENC.ens

M+S-DEC.ens

..and you're almost done.

I am including a user Group which hopefully makes utilizing M/S easier for you. The way you use it is, you load this group into your project (remember to make sure +ROUTINGS is enabled when you do), then just send all other groups from your project into the sound "MS ENCODER" of this group.

Once that is done, the output of your project should be audible from "MS DECODER" sound level like before.. the difference however being, that there are two other sounds in the group, titled "MID" and "SIDE" and by piling on fx on these two sounds, you will be able to process the mid and side information of your signal separately.

Go ham, distort the highs on your mids while still retaining the side info, compress/limit only the mids, make your lowend 100% mono, add reverb only to the mid channel.. let your creativity run wild.

Here's the group (add to your SD card, to the same folder where all the rest of your USER groups reside)

MID-SIDE BUS.mxgrp.zip

apologies, had to zip the group file since NI forum does not allow uploading .mxgrp files directly.

I can post more in-depth explanation on how the whole thing works later. The M+S-ENC ensemble also includes test tone generators for troubleshooting, MID channel plays a triangle wave while the SID channel plays a square wave (their pitches also differ, so easier to know which is which).

Everything is based on the fact that Reaktor ensembles support up to 8 stereo channels of outputs, all this works wonderfully elegantly on the M+ side. M+ only sees the MID/SIDE buses when receiving audio into orher sounds.

Well, there it is. Enjoy. Thanks go to Mr David Nyberg for his "SB Mid/Side Filter & Equalizer" ens in the RUL, where I got the M/S encode/decode algos.

Now.. does your MPC even mid/side bro? 😎

JC96

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/209412#Comment_209412

Is there any way of doing multiband splitting in Reaktor? That would be a great help to me personally, although I could imagine it causing problems with no latency compensation in Maschine. Thanks for the Mid/side tool!

tetsuneko

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/210757#Comment_210757

yes there is. You could use Linkwitz-Riley filters for splitting a signal into bands, process them and then recombine them again. as long as you dont exit the sounds from an ensemble, latencies should be manageable for a sample-accurate reconstruction. IIRC there is a multiband dynamics ensemble in the Reaktor factory library, but havent looked into the matter further.

While it could be theoretically possible to ceate a band splitter ens similarly to how my M/S encode/decoder works, as soon as the signals leave the first ensemble, manageing latencies might become challenging, although I would assume that as long as all bands used the exact same plugin chains. recpnstruction should still occur in-phase..

With the way my MS encoder/decoder works, I suppose latencies might also become an issue..? I haven't experienced anything weird myself yet, but it could happen, especially if one piles on the plugins for either M or S but not on the other.. reconstruction would occur out of phase, but I'm not sure if thats as critical for MS signals as it would be for multiband signals..

JC96

Thanks for the info. I'll check out some of your suggestions. NI really have missed a truck with Reaktor in Maschine +, it's got so much potential!

S Righteous

When I first got Reaktor, I loved the sound of the Newschool instrument, so I made a version of it where the individual sounds were triggered via Midi, instead of the generative sequencer. Then I had heard that other people found a way to import Newschool into the M+, and I tried and tried, but was not successful.

Has anyone actually been able to migrate custom Reaktor patches to the M+ easily? This thread seems to indicate yes. but ? ! ?

LostInFoundation

You’re asking in the right thread.

Tetsuneko is the guy!

ozon

@S Righteous wrote:

Has anyone actually been able to migrate custom Reaktor patches to the M+ easily? This thread seems to indicate yes.

That perception is wrong, unfortunately. It’s sometimes possible, but never easy. And whether the endeavor of converting and maintaining an Ensemble is worth the effort is very personal.

To me, creating new Ensembles designed to bring new functionality to the M+ turned out to be a better investment than trying to port Ensembles that were never meant to run on that platform.

Flexi

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/191421#Comment_191421

It works fine here?

tetsuneko

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/210965#Comment_210965

Are you talking about the "MIDI only" version of newschool? Unfortunately, that ens does not work on M+ standalone, as Maschine does not support MIDI plugins or MIDI data processing of any kind (except for the internal transpose function).

Or are you talking about creating a newschool fork which doesn't have the sequencer? That could indeed work on the M+.. You'd then send it MIDI notes like to any other synth plugin

Instructions on how to get Reaktor stuff ported to M+ for standalone use have been given repeatedly in this thread already, I suggest reading the whole discussion. Its not super difficult, but can be a bit involved if the ens you want to port uses custom UI elements, or is very complex (M+ can only handle up to 100 parameters). Like mentioned above, easiest way to get started is to create simple ad-hoc ensembles which offer solutions to your existing M+ music making challenges, as these do not have custom UI elements when DIYed