Akai announces stem separation for MPCs! [26/03/24 update - OUT NOW]
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If RX10 can do the stem separation maybe that's
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From the Test Report filed on the FCC's website on behalf of AKAI (this is public info, not proprietary or confidential). Interesting mentioned of the iPad MINI in the second test setup. Can any of the current MPC's make use of an iPad?
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Relax... If you use the F word the forum sends your post for review and we need to manually approve it, I approved it just now. The forum always worked like this, generally I'd say just avoid F bombs on an official company owned forum, even after I aprove it will shows as "*****" anyway.
This prevents people who go on full rage mode cursing left and right, when a post is pending approval trying 10x wont make it any better, or was that editing attempts? just wait or ping me if your post gets stuck for approval.
?? Posting links is fine, i posted one in this very thread....
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it does look awesome to have
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RX's stem separation is VERY CPU intensive. All my cores jump to 100% usage and it takes a couple of minutes for a full song, so they would need something less demanding. Their model is also probably old, from RX 6 or 7, at the time people weren't even abusing terms like "AI" or "Maschine Learning" yet.
If Stems happens for NI it would probably be handled by iZo since they have experience, but they would need to make something new and more CPU friendly, like how they made a especial limiter for Traktor.
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How are you going to utilize that Online Service from a Maschine+ that cannot access that service, though?
I'm not even sure how you could write this and not see such a massive hole in your argument.
Maschine+ is a lost cause. They need to release a MK2 to "fix" it.
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Most VST3 plug-ins these days are DRM'd in some form or fashion. That is not going to be that useful. It's not 2005 where every VST2 plugin was shipping with basic offline Serial Code Activation and could be copied from machine to machine.
Most VST3 plug-ins won't even function properly if they aren't properly installed. At least, not the ones you'd want access to.
And many of them would destroy the CPU in a Maschine+.
IMO, NI need to simply add more plug-ins that are similar to the current stock Maschine+ plug-ins, similar to how Akai had AIR port the AIR Creative FX Collection over to the MPC devices (and desktop software). You aren't going to be running SoundToys, UAD or FabFilter plug-ins on a Maschine+.
I personally don't think VST plug-ins on a standalone are that important, as long as NI is on the ball and adding what users as asking most for - as Akai has been doing. I do think it could use a few more synth engines, and perhaps the ability to install Play Series instruments onto the device. But, that also has risks due to the limited compute capacity of the device itself.
But I think they should be able to make the Play Series viable to install and run on the Maschine+. If that won't work, then that device is truly dead in the water.
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RX has had Music Rebalance since... at least RX 7?
However, RX plug-ins are notorious for being high CPU and introducing latency... so I'm not sure how well a Maschine+ could handle it.
On PC, you can simply use Serato or RX Music Rebalance as a plug-in in Maschine or MPC 2 Software.
Most people who want this on a PC already have Serato Sample. v2 was a free update from v1.4. Also, RX Music Rebalance and SpectraLayers Pro (ARA2 - and one of the very best options for this) also exist.
The ability to do it on a standalone will be a gamechanger, IMO. Yes, it's common on PCs, due to Spleeter making it accessible to a lot of people. But it is not common on standalone groovebox/samplers. You are massively undervaluing this feature.
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not see such a massive hole in your argument
At no point in his post did he say he wanted to do this from the Maschine+.
He's merely saying that there are existing ways of separating stems - as you are saying in response to other people's posts!
Also, your response to the user talking about VST3: The update added support for the VST3 protocol - it's nothing to do with being able to install and run third party plugins.
Then your response above, claiming that "most people" have Serato Sample. You have no idea what "most people" have on their computers. How can you not see such a massive hole in your argument?
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I deleted the post as I stated that i'd quoted someone without asking them first, so all you have actually done is undeleted my post, which is the opposite of what I wanted.
A deleted post should stay deleted if a user deletes their own post.
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@iNate I have RX8 and Serato Sample and pay Laial too for their stems separating service, and that's why I felt my needs were met and didn't need it in the M+, until I saw the video.
I would like it in a groovebox that I actually like using though, so you misunderstood what I wrote.
Basically, i'm saying, even if it comes to the current lineup of standalone MPC's, I wouldn't use it, unless they drastically change their workflow. Hopefully you understand my post now?
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Users dont have perms to delete anything.... (unless that changed??) The post was never "deleted", it was pending for moderation due to cursing... Which means it stays hidden. I don't have any tools to bring back "deleted posts" to begin with, i can only delete or approve.
Anyway, I didn't realize you wanted it to stay hidden/deleted, my bad. It's no biggie I'll delete it now if thats what you wish. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Yes. Thank you. I used the 24hrs to edit the post feature, to delete everything in the post, then gave my reason that it didn’t seem right posting the quote without knowing if the author would have wished it to be shared.
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I’m referring to the last part of your post. Forum doesn’t let us delete the irrelevant bits after quoting someone. Few people will pay for this as a VST because many of us already have 2-3. Isabel options in that form already. The value of this is in the groovebox.
I don’t really care what you prefer to use as the overarching theme of this thread really has nothing to do with that. It’s a non-factor detail.
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I mentioned those to say that I am very very interested in Stem separation actually and have bought into it more than most have, so although they have nothing to do with the thread, they explain that I value this capability highly in some form.
I am not massively undervaluing this feature in a groovebox, at least not anymore. I might be undervaluing the MPC line up though, at least to diehard users.
It's still hypothetical until it's made a reality though as it will be released in controller mode only and I don't know if there's a timeline for standalone or even if they can meet that timeline as Akai have also over-promised in the past, so it's by no means guaranteed to be achievable until it's here.
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